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Callalily

(14,890 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 06:24 PM Apr 2019

Question on photography contest

The other evening I was taking photos at a pool (a concert, yes you heard right). Humbly, I took some really good shots and I think may be eligible for the photo contest. But...the photo has people in it and I have not obtained permission from the subjects. Would it be ethical to enter in the contest with these photos?

I am torn. Typically I would not share the photos on the internet, but I'm thinking an internal contest may be okay.

Your thoughts?

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Question on photography contest (Original Post) Callalily Apr 2019 OP
if its in a public place you don't need permission Mosby Apr 2019 #1
My thoughts are that I'd like Mira Apr 2019 #2
You pose an interesting question. mnhtnbb Apr 2019 #3
A constant dilemma. Callalily Apr 2019 #4
Admission by paid ticket tends to suggest ManiacJoe Apr 2019 #5

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
1. if its in a public place you don't need permission
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 07:37 PM
Apr 2019

That's my understanding.

I don't really see the ethical issue tbh.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
2. My thoughts are that I'd like
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:49 PM
Apr 2019

for you to pm me the one you are considering. I think with people constantly being photographed with iphones etc. - being in public means "you are in public". But I have had folks tell me I'm too free with that view.
If you don't mind, I'll go with my gut. The reason is the word "pool" and I want to see what they are wearing, if anything.
That way the decision is on me, and you don't have to worry about it unless you chose to,
Looking forward....

mnhtnbb

(31,394 posts)
3. You pose an interesting question.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 06:01 AM
Apr 2019

I was recently at a resort on Bonaire and when I checked in I was presented with a list of rules that I was asked to sign. One of the rules was to not photograph any of the guests. I had stayed there previously and agreeing to the list of rules was something new.

Your question makes me think more about the issue of photographing people without their consent.

I would ask some questions.

Was it a private event on private property? Invitation only?

Was it a private event on public property requiring an invitation?

Was it a public event requiring a ticket for admission? Did the ticket state no photographs?

Was an announcement ever made stating no photographs?

Does the photo have an identifiable person in it? Or are the features of the person not recognizable? It could be anyone?

If it was an invitation only event and the person is recognizable, I wouldn't submit the photo for the contest. If it was a ticketed event and no announcement was made prohibiting photographs or nothing was said on the ticket , then it would seem to be a public place and people attending would not have any expectation of privacy. In that case, I think it would be ok to submit the photo to the contest.

Callalily

(14,890 posts)
4. A constant dilemma.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 06:37 AM
Apr 2019

I always struggle with this issue. I am always sensitive to those who do not want their picture taken, and abide by their wishes. And typically I try not to take photos where people are recognizable.

My photo in question is in a swimming pool (all fully clothed). It was a "concert", tickets sold, and there wasn't a disclaimer on the program stating that photography was not permitted.

The people in the photo are truly recognizable.

Although a really cool photo, I have decided not to post it publicly. Just the fact that I'm struggling making a decision tells me that I shouldn't post it.

I appreciate everyone's input! I think this is a constant struggle for any photographer.

I'll submit a photo that I took last week.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
5. Admission by paid ticket tends to suggest
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 12:43 AM
Apr 2019

that you are not really "in public" any more.

In general, there are four types of places:
- public (outdoors, any place you do not need permission to be in)
- private (houses, businesses)
- private but open to the public (malls, stores, stadiums)
- restricted (military bases, some government offices)

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