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Tonitown, AR police arrest father for piercing sons ear. (Original Post) LiberalArkie Apr 2023 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #1
The son told his teacher and friends he was abused By the father. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #22
I stand corrected. You are right. Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #25
And yet the son was the one who videoed the incident LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #27
According to the police report from the police school resource officer. LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #28
The boy even stated in the video that he wanted his ears pierced. LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #30
Keep earning the hate. SamKnause Apr 2023 #2
I don't understand how a father drunk chokes his child is not a serious thing. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #24
"Tontitown Police respond to viral video of arrest" sl8 Apr 2023 #3
Amazing how facts sometimes just don't tell the truth. Screw that prosecutor. marble falls Apr 2023 #9
I'm glad he was arrested. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #17
After reading that the father was drunk and put the kid in a choke hold doc03 Apr 2023 #11
Officers explained the reason for their presents... lapfog_1 Apr 2023 #13
The police did their job thankfully. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #20
I wonder what kind of presents they brought... MiHale Apr 2023 #15
Myrrh... Probatim Apr 2023 #39
Tontitown, not Springdale. The teen told school his father was Ilsa Apr 2023 #4
If this is how it went down, I agree with it being phoned in by mandated reporters. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #7
Link to source? nt hippywife Apr 2023 #8
here: Ilsa Apr 2023 #16
I have to wonder how often that law is enforced. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #10
Hopefully every time. Abuse should be investigated. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #21
This was abuse but the law is bs. intheflow Apr 2023 #43
Looks like there's an exception for piercing the earlobe: sl8 Apr 2023 #44
Well, then. Case dismissed! intheflow Apr 2023 #46
I see people getting toddlers ears pierced all the time. I think that is child abuse myself to doc03 Apr 2023 #5
Teen girls used to pierce each other's ears all the time. Ilsa Apr 2023 #14
You are so correct about toddlers with earings, it's what at least one... Mark.b2 Apr 2023 #40
Jebus. What a waste of 'roided cop resources. Must have been no PoC around to shoot. marble falls Apr 2023 #6
Yeah cuz child abuse is a joke. Read the story and not the headline. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #18
Read the story. This is my take. I don't see child abuse here. Kind of a strong statement on your .. marble falls Apr 2023 #26
When the boy was asked about it at school, he said his father was drunk and put him a choke hold and doc03 Apr 2023 #31
Because adolescent boys are known for their ability to be truthful, true to the facts in locker ... marble falls Apr 2023 #32
see post #33 doc03 Apr 2023 #34
tried to 'investigate' stopdiggin Apr 2023 #35
Both can be true. intheflow Apr 2023 #45
Welp. I know a few of our latin American mothers who would be going to jail Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #12
They choked their child and almost kill them too jimfields33 Apr 2023 #19
Well, damn. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #23
Yes, according to the Tonitown PD and the Tonitown PD school resource officer. LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #29
AFTER going to school and reporting stopdiggin Apr 2023 #36
That is what the school resource officer (PD) said in the report. No one else that was in the room LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #37
the school resource officer wasn't in the room stopdiggin Apr 2023 #38
The boy was defending his dad in the video and saying he wanted his ears pierced. LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #41
completely seperate incident stopdiggin Apr 2023 #42
Just for fun just imagine for a minute the father was wearing a t-shirt doc03 Apr 2023 #33

Response to LiberalArkie (Original post)

jimfields33

(15,803 posts)
24. I don't understand how a father drunk chokes his child is not a serious thing.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:26 AM
Apr 2023

What is going on that this is deemed ok?

sl8

(13,779 posts)
3. "Tontitown Police respond to viral video of arrest"
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:38 AM
Apr 2023
https://www.nwahomepage.com/news/tontitown-police-respond-to-viral-video-of-arrest/


Tontitown Police respond to viral video of arrest

by: Kyler Swaim
Posted: Apr 22, 2023 / 10:01 PM CDT
Updated: Apr 22, 2023 / 11:01 PM CDT

TONTITOWN, Ark. (KNWA/KFTA) — The Tontitown Police Department has responded to a viral video posted on social media of a man being forcefully arrested at his home in Tontitown.

According to a police statement, Tontitown police were contacted by a resource officer with Springdale Public Schools with a welfare concern and said a juvenile male went to school with a piercing in his left ear.

[...]

Officers returned to Sherland’s home later after getting a probable cause arrest and when officers asked Sherland to step outside, he refused and stood in the doorway.

According to the video, Sherland was pushed back into the house, where then multiple officers held him against the wall and he was then arrested. The video finishes by showing Sherland being placed into the back of a police car.

[...]



Tontitown Police’s full response

We will continue to update this story with more information as it becomes available.

jimfields33

(15,803 posts)
17. I'm glad he was arrested.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:17 AM
Apr 2023

Last edited Sun Apr 23, 2023, 10:54 AM - Edit history (1)

Next time don’t force your son down while chocking him and pierce his ear without permission. Maybe take the son away completely from the father forever.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
11. After reading that the father was drunk and put the kid in a choke hold
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:53 AM
Apr 2023

and pierced his ear, the SOB deserves to be charged with child abuse.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
13. Officers explained the reason for their presents...
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:14 AM
Apr 2023

Arkansas... small city police department... press release...

is it any wonder why I feel sad about the level of education in our nation

jimfields33

(15,803 posts)
20. The police did their job thankfully.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:21 AM
Apr 2023

Hopefully the father does some months in jail. He’s horrible as a father.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. Tontitown, not Springdale. The teen told school his father was
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:45 AM
Apr 2023

drunk and put him in a chokehold to pierce his ear(s). The school is a mandatory reporter of child abuse, so that's how it started.

intheflow

(28,474 posts)
43. This was abuse but the law is bs.
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 06:04 AM
Apr 2023

No body art on anyone under 16? So many girls have their eyes pierced as babies. I got my ears pierced at 13 and I was late to the party.

intheflow

(28,474 posts)
46. Well, then. Case dismissed!
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 06:18 AM
Apr 2023

So telling that he’s being charged with body art crimes instead of, say, child abuse.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
5. I see people getting toddlers ears pierced all the time. I think that is child abuse myself to
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:46 AM
Apr 2023

alter another person's body without their consent. I certainly don't think 5 cops should come and arrest someone for it though.
I mean the parents aren't doing it for the child, it is for themselves.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
14. Teen girls used to pierce each other's ears all the time.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:14 AM
Apr 2023

Stainless steel sewing needles, ice, alcohol, gold posts on the ear studs.

I think piercing of toddlers' ears is unnecessary, but usually a cultural thing. And at least the piercing isn't permanent if they decide to let it heal over.

Mark.b2

(261 posts)
40. You are so correct about toddlers with earings, it's what at least one...
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 05:46 PM
Apr 2023

Of the parents want. I find it frankly strange. Let kids have a damn childhood without weighting them down with any adulting.

marble falls

(57,093 posts)
26. Read the story. This is my take. I don't see child abuse here. Kind of a strong statement on your ..
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:30 AM
Apr 2023

... part. Feeling a little confrontational this morning are we?

There is contradiction in the cop's 'facts'. All this would have taken was a little meeting at the prosecutor's office or at the school, not a brawl at the house: particularly after the cops had already been to the house before on this specific issue.

If anything this demonstrates that co-operating with cops is a big mistake without a lawyer.


Did you listen to the video? Did you hear that kid? They needed a clearing of the issues, but they did not need that cop home invasion.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
31. When the boy was asked about it at school, he said his father was drunk and put him a choke hold and
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:59 AM
Apr 2023

pierced his ear. When the cops came to the house the first time the parents wouldn't let the cops talk to him.
Then the second time after they arrest his dad the boy claims he wanted it. Which time was the boy telling the truth?
The first time, or the second time after the parents had a talk with him.

marble falls

(57,093 posts)
32. Because adolescent boys are known for their ability to be truthful, true to the facts in locker ...
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 10:13 AM
Apr 2023

... rooms and the lunchrooms. I think we should arrest anyone based on things any adolescent boy says.

Right?

Investigate all claims of child abuse, but there was no need to raid the house. The man should have stayed mute when the first field visit was made and hired a lawyer. If the claims of abuse were credible, the boy should have been taken out of the house.

Screw that prosecutor. Screw those cops.

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
35. tried to 'investigate'
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 11:50 AM
Apr 2023

and father refused to cooperate - would not allow LE to talk to person that made complaint. Police then referred to DA for advice and direction.

You still aren't reading the account. Either that or 'cops bad' is the only narrative you're willing to see? (in this or any other encounter?)

intheflow

(28,474 posts)
45. Both can be true.
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 06:14 AM
Apr 2023

Kid could have mentioned to his dad he wanted his ear pierced. Dad, a couple beers in the bag, agrees to help his son. After several attempts using other methods (icing the ear or whatever) the dad puts the kid in a headlock. I’m not saying that’s what happened but considering how little we know of this kid and his family dynamics, jumping to conclusions about abuse is premature.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
29. Yes, according to the Tonitown PD and the Tonitown PD school resource officer.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:47 AM
Apr 2023

The boy even stated in the video that he wanted his ears pierced.

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
36. AFTER going to school and reporting
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 11:58 AM
Apr 2023

the incident as a drunken attack by father. (which made it a mandatory 'reporting' incident for the school)

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
37. That is what the school resource officer (PD) said in the report. No one else that was in the room
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 04:10 PM
Apr 2023

heard the boy say that though supposedly.

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
38. the school resource officer wasn't in the room
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 05:09 PM
Apr 2023

the conversation was reported to him/her. (which would seem to indicate that other individuals had heard this version) On top of which - kind of a stretch to postulate that the school officials just made up this incident out of whole cloth - for giggles?

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
42. completely seperate incident
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 01:11 AM
Apr 2023

and the second trip that township police have made to this residence. (which I think we all understand)

I'm perfectly willing to entertain the idea that kid goes over to school and lies out his ass about what actually transpired at home. (whether either to avoid some consequence or accounting, or maybe even in an effort to entertain and spin a good tale for his loser buddies) Kids do stupid shit and tell tall tales all the damned time.

What I don't countenance - and think is just as implausible as hell - is that the school made up this wild tale - and forwarded it on to LE - just because it was a slow day in Podunkville. The kid may well have changed his tune. And may well have been exaggerating or prevaricating in the first telling. But the original 'telling' over at the school - came from him - just sure as shootin'. And that 'telling' - along with a sizeable portion of father's belligerence - leads in a straight line to father's detention and arrest.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
33. Just for fun just imagine for a minute the father was wearing a t-shirt
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 10:13 AM
Apr 2023

that said Trump 24 or Let's Go Brandon. How would this thread go?

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