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petronius

(26,602 posts)
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 12:14 PM Oct 2015

Signs of wild winter already emerging in nature

From the Sierra crest in Yosemite National Park to the beaches of Monterey Bay, the critters continued to tell us in the past week that a volatile winter is ahead.

At high elevations in Yosemite, the marmots already have submerged in hibernation. This is several weeks, if not a month, early.

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At midweek, the Monterey Aquarium sent me a note that pelagic red crabs from Baja California, which look like mini lobsters, washed up in large numbers on the shore of Monterey Bay. Off Baja, these are a favorite food of tuna, and many anglers call them “tuna snacks.”

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John Lindsey, the meteorologist from PG&E, sent a note that the tropical cyclone Oho near Hawaii is forecast to travel off the Pacific Coast, “an unusual path, indeed.” In addition, what has been called “the blob,” an anomalous mass of very warm water off the Pacific Coast that some said would block El Niño moisture, is gone.

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http://www.sfgate.com/outdoors/article/Signs-of-wild-winter-already-emerging-in-nature-6563869.php

I was up in the Sierra in early September and was really surprised not to see or hear any marmots, despite copious scat. Seems like that was too early for them to be hibernating, but maybe they were. I did see a couple of pikas though, which always makes me happy...
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Signs of wild winter already emerging in nature (Original Post) petronius Oct 2015 OP
Good news! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2015 #1
With the Blob gone, the RRR might also not form. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #2
we should be frozen down a few feet with four feet of snow here but roguevalley Oct 2015 #12
"The Blob" is gone Brother Buzz Oct 2015 #3
I came across this link as well: petronius Oct 2015 #9
Still waiting... Galileo126 Oct 2015 #4
I wish I were a marmot, right about now Demeter Oct 2015 #5
I hope california gets some workinclasszero Oct 2015 #6
If the number of acorns are any indication, NV Whino Oct 2015 #7
Or you believe the weather men penndragon69 Oct 2015 #8
Near 100 degrees today in San Diego County itsrobert Oct 2015 #10
Same here in DFW awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #14
Here in East Virginia, along the Chesapeake Bay, the woolly bears predict a mild winter. Or not. OldRedneck Oct 2015 #11
Only one small problem with this thesis. JayhawkSD Oct 2015 #13
I traveled through southern Utah this weekend and the talk there was all about a lack of rain . . . Journeyman Oct 2015 #15

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
2. With the Blob gone, the RRR might also not form.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 12:25 PM
Oct 2015

And that would be great news for the West! And I'm looking forward to it to a winter that doesn't potentially involve clearing the driveway of this every week:



And yes, that is from one single storm. All 24 inches of it.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
12. we should be frozen down a few feet with four feet of snow here but
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:11 PM
Oct 2015

we have rain and 50 degrees. I hope that the drought areas are ready for el nino because its supposed to wollop you good. Take care out there no matter where you live. I am on your side.

Brother Buzz

(36,434 posts)
3. "The Blob" is gone
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 12:39 PM
Oct 2015

"The blob," an anomalous mass of very warm water off the Pacific Coast that some said would block El Niño moisture, is gone.



NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
7. If the number of acorns are any indication,
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 02:33 PM
Oct 2015

This is going to be a hell of a winter.

I was meeting with a tree guy the other day discussing some needed trimming. We had to move our meeting from under the tree because we were being pelted with falling acorns. good news for my squirrelly friends, but wow.

 

penndragon69

(788 posts)
8. Or you believe the weather men
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 02:39 PM
Oct 2015

who say it will be a warm and dry winter this year....
at least for the Mid-West !

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
10. Near 100 degrees today in San Diego County
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:00 PM
Oct 2015

Winter is not emerging here in nature. Humans are not part of nature?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. Same here in DFW
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 01:30 AM
Oct 2015

As a native Buckeye, my soul screams when it is 90+ in October- it just ain't right.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
11. Here in East Virginia, along the Chesapeake Bay, the woolly bears predict a mild winter. Or not.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:04 PM
Oct 2015

As any Southerner knows, one of the best predictors of the winter is the woolly bear caterpillar, Pyrrharctia isabella, is the larval stage of the adult moth. The woolly blear is covered with soft reddish-orange fur. Sometimes, however, the fur has black bands on either end. From time to time, the woolly bear's fur is all black.

According my old granddaddy, the more black on the woolly bear, the harder the winter will be.

The woolly bears have started to appear here and they seem to be confused. I am seeing them with fur ranging from all reddish-orange to all black and everything in between.

Of course, there are those who claim the woolly bear's color has nothing to do with predicting the winter. Who you gonna believe: My old granddaddy, or, some PhD who lives in an ivory tower?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrharctia_isabella

http://www.almanac.com/content/predicting-winter-weather-woolly-bear-caterpillars

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
13. Only one small problem with this thesis.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 01:19 AM
Oct 2015

According to NOAA the blob, while slightly weakened off of Alaska, is still there as of Oct 8th, and still pretty much unchanged off of California from what it has been all summer.

I'm not predicting how it will affect El Nino's effect on California's weather, I have no idea and it may have no effect whatever, but it doesn't look to me like saying that "it's gone" is entirely accurate.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
15. I traveled through southern Utah this weekend and the talk there was all about a lack of rain . . .
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 01:12 PM
Oct 2015

It was hot all over the state and every weather forecast I heard spoke of how they'd expected more rain to have fallen across the State by this time.

It's early, true, and this may be a local anomaly, but it didn't sound as encouraging as I'd hoped.

One good sign, however, the critters I saw on my hikes were all very fat, getting ready it seemed for a long hard winter.

Back in South California today and it's dry and hot but that's to be expected in October. Nevertheless, as soon as it cools a little, I'm cleaning my rain gutters and making all my preparations for a wet winter.

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