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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 03:10 PM Sep 2023

South LA vendors face eviction to make way for housing development

South LA vendors face eviction to make way for housing development
A swap meet will be razed to make way for affordable apartments, made possible by new streamlining legislation — they’re asking LA politicians for help.
by Alfredo Santana
09/21/2023

From left, Mariela Briseño and Fernando Espinoza stand next to shoppers at Fiesta Mini Mall on a Saturday afternoon. (Alfredo Santana / LAPP)

In South Los Angeles, dozens of swap-meet vendors face an ominous threat to their livelihoods.

Swap meet vendor Rene Ramirez, and nearly 60 small retailers fear their jobs are endangered if landlord Eleos Ventures, a real estate development company engaged in purchasing properties to build affordable housing, ousts them from their facility.

“Management only shows up to open and close the swap meet. We, the vendors, are permanently running the place,” complained Ramirez, a clothing and home electronics vendor. “We clean, invest in the place, and even installed padlocks in units and restrooms.”

The swap meet, housed in and around the Fiesta Mini Mall warehouse on 4800 S. Main St. in South LA, has been home to vendors selling electronics, clothing, shoes and hygiene products for 12 years. But in 2021 the previous landlord sold the property for $3.5 million to Eleos Ventures, a developer that plans to build 221 affordable units on the site, a development they’re calling the “Elea Apartments.”

https://lapublicpress.org/2023/09/south-la-vendors-face-eviction-to-make-way-for-housing-development/
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South LA vendors face eviction to make way for housing development (Original Post) ellisonz Sep 2023 OP
Reminds me of Radio Row yankee87 Sep 2023 #1
The planned Elea Apartments are no World Trade Center! ellisonz Sep 2023 #2
Affordable housing? Isn't that a good thing? Going to need more information on this one. EarnestPutz Sep 2023 #3
It's in the article! ellisonz Sep 2023 #5
Yes, I read the article. A brief synopsis of which might be "Local flea market vendors will be... EarnestPutz Sep 2023 #9
The developers have no information on pricing or what portion of this will be affordable. ellisonz Sep 2023 #10
Like I Said, more information. The lack of information on their website is worrisome. EarnestPutz Sep 2023 #11
Yes, but that's still gonna be out of reach of most of these people. ellisonz Sep 2023 #12
Excuse me please, but it seems that you and I have seen nothing about the pricing or number of.... EarnestPutz Sep 2023 #15
Same old, same old here on DU! ellisonz Sep 2023 #16
What constitutes low income/affordable housing is set by CA state law. SunSeeker Sep 2023 #21
"A single person making $70k per year is considered low income in Los Angeles County." ellisonz Sep 2023 #22
We need more affordable housing in LA, the swap meet vendors can move. SunSeeker Sep 2023 #4
The argument made here is that this is essentially gentrification: ellisonz Sep 2023 #6
Middle class people need housing too. SunSeeker Sep 2023 #7
This one's a job killer though! ellisonz Sep 2023 #8
No it's not. This is a flea market/swap meet. They can set up at another lot. SunSeeker Sep 2023 #13
I think that's pretty presumptive. ellisonz Sep 2023 #14
Anyone can ask to have a table at the Goldenwest or Cypress colleges swap meets. SunSeeker Sep 2023 #17
So basically these poor immigrant vendors shouldn't complain about getting eviction notices? ellisonz Sep 2023 #18
Correct. Like I said, it's a lot easier to find a swap meet table space than housing in L.A. SunSeeker Sep 2023 #19
Perfecto! ellisonz Sep 2023 #20

yankee87

(2,173 posts)
1. Reminds me of Radio Row
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 03:15 PM
Sep 2023

when the WTC was built. All the radio shops were torn down to make way for the Trade Center.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
2. The planned Elea Apartments are no World Trade Center!
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 03:17 PM
Sep 2023

This is more about building more expensive housing to capitalize on land proximate, but not in DTLA. There's actually quite a lot of vacant property to be found around here, but it's being held off the real estate market.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
9. Yes, I read the article. A brief synopsis of which might be "Local flea market vendors will be...
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 03:25 PM
Sep 2023

....forced to find an alternative site after twelve years as new owners choose to repurpose their property by providing much needed affordable housing to the area". Someone else in this thread said that other properties in the area are being held off the market. I'd like to know more about the area and why this may be the case. I'd like to not jump to the conclusion that some evil landowner is mindlessly hurting some small businesses.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
10. The developers have no information on pricing or what portion of this will be affordable.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:27 PM
Sep 2023
https://www.eleos.la/projects/elea-yknd2

I live in Los Angeles County, grew up here, and no way I could afford what these are going to be priced at most likely.

Capitalism isn't the solution always, that's why people don't like being priced out of their own neighborhoods.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
11. Like I Said, more information. The lack of information on their website is worrisome.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:24 PM
Sep 2023

Are there any local codes that will require a portion of units to be affordable.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
12. Yes, but that's still gonna be out of reach of most of these people.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 11:22 PM
Sep 2023

You might value capitalism at all costs, but others regard this as gentrification.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
15. Excuse me please, but it seems that you and I have seen nothing about the pricing or number of....
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 05:54 AM
Sep 2023

.....units deemed to be "affordable". You are also misreading my reluctance to jump to conclusions about this and you are patently wrong in opining about my opinion of capitalism. I don't know about "gentrification" in this instance (again, more information is needed), but if the folks who move into the units, "low income" units or otherwise, make more money than the folks who are losing their flea market venue, that doesn't make them the "gentry".

Simply put, I lack your certainty about this. You may be right. I have heard or seen nothing that would merit such certainty.

So, I'll repeat my first comment. I'm going to need more information.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
21. What constitutes low income/affordable housing is set by CA state law.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:44 PM
Sep 2023

"Affordable housing cost” for lower-income households is defined in CA state law as not more than 30 percent of gross household income with variations (CA Health and Safety Code Section 50052.5). The comparable federal limit, more widely used, is 30 percent of gross income, with variations.

A single person making $70k per year is considered low income in Los Angeles County. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-news/what-is-low-income-in-southern-california-los-angeles-finance-money/3179455/

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
4. We need more affordable housing in LA, the swap meet vendors can move.
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 06:19 PM
Sep 2023

Housing is more important than swap meets, which we have plenty of.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
6. The argument made here is that this is essentially gentrification:
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 01:28 PM
Sep 2023

“We believe they will raze this building to build housing for people with higher incomes,” said Espinoza. “We think the neighborhood may be in the process of being gentrified.”

He said Eleos management refused to meet them in person, and only did so after two 30-day eviction notices were filed in March and April.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
13. No it's not. This is a flea market/swap meet. They can set up at another lot.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 01:47 AM
Sep 2023

A common place for them to set up in Southern California is at parking lots of local community colleges, since there are no students parking there on weekends. They can set up their tables at Golden West College or Cypress College, both relatively nearby. South L.A. also has a lot of underutilized industrial lots. They can keep their jobs, they just need to move where they can set up their tables.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
14. I think that's pretty presumptive.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 04:09 AM
Sep 2023

You need permission from those institutions to do those activities, or from property owners.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
17. Anyone can ask to have a table at the Goldenwest or Cypress colleges swap meets.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 05:35 PM
Sep 2023

It's a lot easier to find a table spot at a swap meet than finding housing in L.A.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
18. So basically these poor immigrant vendors shouldn't complain about getting eviction notices?
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:05 PM
Sep 2023

From a developer with no established interest in their neighborhood other than property ownership.

I'm sure they'll find a place somewhere!

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
19. Correct. Like I said, it's a lot easier to find a swap meet table space than housing in L.A.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:08 PM
Sep 2023

Seriously.

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