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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:30 PM Jun 2014

We could end up with Repuke vs. Repuke for controller.

Ex-Assembly speaker Perez is clinging to a 2400-vote lead for second.

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/controller/

Controller - Statewide Results
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100.0% ( 22,353 of 22,353 ) precincts partially
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Candidate Votes Percent
Tammy D. Blair (Party Preference: DEM) 154,272 5.2%
John A. Pérez (Party Preference: DEM) 638,545 21.7%
Betty T. Yee (Party Preference: DEM) 632,902 21.5%
David Evans (Party Preference: REP) 636,109 21.6%
Ashley Swearengin (Party Preference: REP) 719,046 24.4%
Laura Wells (Party Preference: GRN) 166,620 5.7%


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We could end up with Repuke vs. Repuke for controller. (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2014 OP
Crap :( Nictuku Jun 2014 #1
I never liked this idea that California did yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #3
Actually, only 48 states KamaAina Jun 2014 #4
Thank you yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #6
It is a really crazy situation, as I understand it. truedelphi Jun 2014 #12
The top two move on, automatically, so it could be a decision between identical parties. Sirveri Jun 2014 #13
The voters did it. antiquie Jun 2014 #5
The voters also banned same-sex marriage and educating undocumented kids. KamaAina Jun 2014 #7
The stupid... antiquie Jun 2014 #8
I did too. xxqqqzme Jun 2014 #9
You ran for the Assembly? KamaAina Jun 2014 #22
It squeezed out third parties. roody Jun 2014 #26
Double crap. antiquie Jun 2014 #2
Too many Dems ran. savalez Jun 2014 #10
A lot of Dems ran for SoS, too. KamaAina Jun 2014 #11
Uh oh! blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #14
K&R Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #15
Swearengen is the Mayor of Fresno Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #16
You've mentioned this KamaAina Jun 2014 #17
When given a choice between 2 Republicans Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #18
I don't believe write-ins are allowed in November KamaAina Jun 2014 #19
This could all be moot Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #20
Update: The margin between Perez and Evans is now less than 2,000. KamaAina Jun 2014 #21
Further update: The scum has taken the lead! KamaAina Jun 2014 #23
So at this point it's Perez and Swearengin? SoapBox Jun 2014 #24
L.A. has a newspaper? KamaAina Jun 2014 #25
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. I never liked this idea that California did
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jun 2014

Was it really necessary? The top two are able to have a run off. Why not just have the highest Republican and highest Democrat in separate primaries run off against each other like the other 49 states. When this new procedures was announced, I thought it must have been a joke of some sort.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
4. Actually, only 48 states
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

The state that originated the "jungle primary"? Louisiana. Hardly a model anyone would wish to replicate. Except Abel Maldonado, who exacted this pound of flesh in exchange for his vote for a Dem budget.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
6. Thank you
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

The whole thing just doesn't make sense. First of all, California is a pretty Democratic State so the majority of elections are going to be Democratic wins. The rest of the state might be purple in some areas but they could easily be fought for by getting a bigger "GOTV" program rather than risking a fairly safe seat with the "weird" situation where now you have two Republicans to choose from. It is really unfair to the red areas and purple areas of California to have to possibly choose between two Republicans and hell I will say the same for Republicans having to choose between to Democrats just for the heck of it. I mean they must have REALLY been desperate for that vote.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
12. It is a really crazy situation, as I understand it.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jun 2014

And so far I understand very little about it.

So for the hypothetical race of Trophy Polisher, if one Dem gets 24% and another gets 26%, does the Republican still get to run? And then that Republican could crush them by getting 30% - right? Even though clearly 50% of the ballots were cast for the Democratic party?

i am not even sure I understand what is going on...

Any citations or links would help.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
13. The top two move on, automatically, so it could be a decision between identical parties.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 08:24 PM
Jun 2014

The entire thing is stupid. We had 3 or 4 districts where the choices were between candidates from the same party. So I guess if you're a dem and your choice is between 2 Repuke morons to rep you you're probably just going to stay home, which means you won't vote on the props, which means reduced turnout. Thankfully, most of the top two races where in locked areas already, Alameda isn't going to send a Republican to the house or Senate, so it makes sense that they're be picking between two democrats. Or the Dem and a Green. The real problem I have with it is that not nearly as many people vote in the primaries, which means all the candidates that come out tend to be more extremist and conservative, the new model exacerbates that issue.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
7. The voters also banned same-sex marriage and educating undocumented kids.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jun 2014

Remember, ten percent of them voted for Leland Yee.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10406606

Alas, the courts failed to bail us out this time.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
9. I did too.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jun 2014

I was amazed at the democrats who thought it was a great idea. I ran for the assembly in '10, when 'top 2' was on the ballot. I told anyone who would listen to vote NO because it meant a candidate had to raise money for 2 campaigns - the primary and the general. The CA Democratic Party also stopped paying filing fees for candidates. If I had to raise money for filing fees too, I could not run. Top 2 considerably narrowed the candidate field.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
22. You ran for the Assembly?
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jun 2014

Tell me more. It's possible I may even have met whoever beat you; I sometimes get asked to do leg visits with random legislators from outside Silicon Valley.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
16. Swearengen is the Mayor of Fresno
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 12:49 AM
Jun 2014

and she is the privatization queen. She managed to privatize the commercial trash pick up while no one was looking and tried to do the same with residential. The union got its shit together, got a petition to add it to the ballot on a special election (a couple of years ago) and managed to defeat it. She's as right wing as they come and has big ambitions. She wants to run for Congress but those positions are sewn up in the Valley by other RWNJ's (other than Costa who is a Blue Dog -- only slight better than a RWNJ). She's got Big Republican Valley Money behind her. Let's hope Perez hangs on.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. You've mentioned this
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 12:54 AM
Jun 2014

if the other repuke gets over for second, should we vote for him? Leave it blank? Or march on Sac?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
18. When given a choice between 2 Republicans
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 01:02 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:21 AM - Edit history (1)

I write in my own name. A true progressive, independent thinker, not to mention stunningly beautimous.

ETA: Most people in this forum don't know much, if anything, about the San Joaquin Valley and what they do know is usually dead wrong. Consequently, they're likely not to know anything about Swearengen and as a resident, I feel it important to inform when I can. Not everyone reads every thread in this or other groups/forums so YOU may have seen the earlier reference(s) but that doesn't mean everyone did.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
20. This could all be moot
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jun 2014

seeing as how we don't yet know who the frontrunners will be. If it's two Republicans, one is not obligated to vote for either. The outcome is the same.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
24. So at this point it's Perez and Swearengin?
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jun 2014

...the LA Times had a glowing endorsement of Swearengin.

I wonder how many people voted for her because of that.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
25. L.A. has a newspaper?
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jun 2014


Srsly, how much obstructionist damage could a repuke controller do, by failing to sign off on budgets, etc.?
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