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Related: About this forumSeniors and people with disabilities block tech buses (xpost from GD)
http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/08/01/seniors-and-people-with-disabilities-block-tech-buses/Now seniors and people with disabilities are taking issue with the buses themselves.
On Friday morning, protesters from groups including Senior and Disability Action, the Gray Panthers and Eviction Free San Francisco blocked two tech shuttle buses stopping at 24th and Valencia streets en route to the Valley....
Mira Ingram, a MUNI rider who is wheelchair-bound due to a combination of neuropathy, arthritis and diabetes, said she often misses the bus because of tech shuttles. The 45-year-old said she canceled a regular morning doctors appointment because she missed her bus so frequently due to private shuttles. The private buses, she said, block MUNI drivers from getting close enough to the curb to operate the bus wheelchair lifts.
I know her!!! And the head of Senior and Disability Action! (Today is her birthday!)
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)If one is against this, then one must also be against HOV lanes.
Let Google et al do what they do, let's take their model and expand it, not fight it.
Fighting it puts us all back into ICE single occupancy vehicles.
Sorry.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)Buses are a part of it.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)The gentrification doesn't stop or start or happen more rapidly with or without these buses.
I live here now, the greater Bay Area, and I lived in Manhattan and watched gentrification in real time.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)The real problem is that the South Bay is so crushingly boring that these techies are willing to absorb an hour-plus commute each way in order to live in SF. San Jose, the "Capital of Silicon Valley", is actually larger than SF, with 980,000 people to about 800,000. Yet no one (including me!) wants to live here. This is the real problem.
And if there must be commuter buses, they should be run by Caltrain, the commuter railroad that runs between SF and San Jose. The problem is that the huge companies like Google and Facebook are nowhere near the stations. "Calbus" would be open to everyone, like people working for startups that can't afford to run shuttles, and people interviewing in $iliValley.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And I worked there before moving to NY (and then moving back here).
It's pretty, but I just couldn't live in the city unless it was the Sunset or the west side.
I can see where younger working people might like it for a few years, but I prefer and ocean view and fewer people.
These folks make enough money that they could drive their Teslas or Audis to the train station, if Google wants to put them on buses that Google pays for, I'm fine with that.
If they went on Caltrain they'd have to drive to the station, as you indicate, which is a bit less sustainable.
If they want to create a "Calbus", if Google pays for it and others want to use it, I'd be fine with that but it makes sense that rider would need to pay a fair or buy a monthly pass.
It would make for good PR for them.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)San Diego is to biotech what Silicon Valley is to IT. The center of our biotech is Sorrento Valley, an area which also includes Qualcomm. We don't have corporate sponsored busses clogging up our roads and freeways, but the tech companies run a shuttle system in Sorrento Valley from the Coaster (commuter train) stop to all of the various industries. It works.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)but the analogy fails because the biotech workers want to live in nearby SD. Imagine if Oceanside suddenly became super-desirable and they all started pouring in there!
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)mackerel
(4,412 posts)kids I moved to one of the Bay Area Cities. When I was living in SF the buses were run so badly that it was actually faster for me
to walk from Fell Street up Market to my job on Sansome Street. I'm not sure why it's an issue? Is it more of a symbol?