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Gidney N Cloyd

(19,838 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 02:35 PM Dec 2022

IL GOP fails to take hint. Their shrinking support in state is a mystery to them.

Last edited Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Our increasingly crazy Republicans plan to double down on the crazy.

GOP activists direct their ire at state party
Chairman to continue in role, says critics’ voices will be heard

By Rick Pearson Chicago Tribune

More than a hundred grass-roots activists, defeated candidates and party loyalists descended on a meeting of the Illinois Republican Party’s top leaders on Saturday, voicing frustration over last month’s election results that extended the state’s one-party Democratic governance.

But after four hours and nearly 60 speakers, Illinois GOP ChairmanDon Tracy survived a sometimes raucous Republican State Central Committee meeting at the Bolingbrook Golf Club to continue as head of the state party after contending some outside the state GOP were stirring dissent and seeking to challenge his leadership in order to try to boost their internet presence.

Still, he acknowledged after the meeting that many of those expressing their frustration at him had a voice that should be heard.
“These were people that worked hard and we are all very disappointed in the outcome of the election and this was an opportunity for them to share their concerns and their ideas and we’re here to listen to them,” Tracy said. “I think a lot of them are fairly new and we want them to not go away with that first election loss and give up. We want them to keep working and working for the entire party and other campaigns and not just one,” he said.

As for continuing to lead the state Republicans as he has since February of last year, Tracy said, “I’m not going anywhere.”
Tracy acknowledged to the 17-member Republican governing body and the audience that “the election was a bitter pill to swallow” and it “hurts because we had such high hopes” only to see Democrats retain all statewide offices, extended their supermajorities in the state legislature and expand their advantage on the Illinois Supreme Court and in the state’s congressional delegation.

“However, honest post election analysis requires thoughtful consideration of our truths in order to move forward, not bad-faith attempts by online bloggers to try to gin up the place in order to profit off the frustration that we all feel,” Tracy said as some in the audience booed.

Some of the discontent was stirred by right-wing radio show host, blogger, and former President DonaldTrump ally Mark Vargas. Vargas has used his recently purchased Illinois Review conservative website to promote a challenge to Tracy’s leadership.
“This movement isn’t going away. It is just beginning,” Vargas said during his turn at the microphone in the public comment section of the meeting. “Are we better off today than we were six months ago? No. Are you better off today than we were 12 months ago? No,” Vargas said, his “no’s” echoed by the audience.

Vargas said, “We need change” after making unfounded claims that Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker was preparing a new pandemic mask mandate and would require children to be vaccinated for COVID-19 “and we don’t have enough Republicans in Springfield to stop him.”

The audience included several losing Republican candidates, including Stephanie Trussell, the running mate to losing GOP governor candidate Darren Bailey, U.S. Senate contender Kathy Salvi, congressional candidate, Orland Park Mayor Keith Pekau, and attorney general candidate Tom DeVore. Also attending were party activists that included a man wearing a Donald Trump dummy on his shoulders, and Peggy Hubbard of Belleville, an internet provocateur who spreads conspiracy theories and who has twice been an unsuccessful GOP primary candidate for the U.S. Senate nomination.

“Mr. Tracy, if you’re not going to do your job, move out of the way and we will do it,” Hubbard said, refusing to relinquish the mic after her allotted 90 seconds had expired, saying, “I drove 397 miles. If we don’t change what’s in this room right now and come together we are not going to make it in this party.”

State GOP officials touted victories at the county level downstate, where communities have turned increasingly Republican in the absence of union manufacturing and coal mining jobs. The state party also said it had raised $2.2 million in the last cycle — a pittance to the tens of millions spent by billionaire Pritzker on Democratic activities — but more than double what the party raised in the previous two-year cycle.

Vince Kolber, a wealthy businessman who heads the state GOP’s finance committee, drew boos when he said of those who have not donated to the party, “I don’t know what the heck you’re doing here.” Kolber was promptly defended by Jeanne Ives, a state central committee member and former state lawmaker, who noted he contributed $750,000 to her failed primary challenge to one-term Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner in 2018.

But his comment drew a rebuke from DeVore, who contended Kolber’s remark was representative of a state GOP that ignored grassroots supporters who, rather than donate money, “worked their fingers to the bone to do what they believe in.”
“Mr. Tracy or anybody else in here, you’ve got to walk through this room and you’ve got to engage these people and they have to recognize you accepting respect for them,” DeVore said.

Republican National Committeeman Richard Porter drew the most audience criticism as he sought to focus on the need for post-election party unification and “respecting other perspectives” while calling for “no more RINO crap,” using the acronym Republican In Name Only, which conservatives use to attack moderates.

“We have to recognize a lot of people see us as angry white people that cannot be trusted to govern,” Porter said. “Now we know that’s not true, but they bought it. All right. We have to recognize the face we present to the public is who we are.”

But several audience members accused the state GOP establishment of supporting Aurora Mayor Richard Irvin’s primary bid for governor over Bailey, in the process weakening or abandoning the eventual GOP nominee. Irvin’s bid was backed by $50 million from Ken Griffin, the CEO of the Citadel investment firm, but Irvin finished third, far behind Bailey. The state GOP did not endorse a candidate for governor.

“Irvin was a great Republican,” Porter said, to boos and shouts. “No he was not,” one woman shouted while a man yelled, “He’s a liberal.” “Republicans come in many flavors,” Porter said, prompting a man to reply, “No. One-flavor Republicans,” while a woman yelled, “You guys quashed good candidates.”

Ultimately, Tracy said the GOP must re-focus its efforts to trying to regain political control of the suburbs, which were the basis for Republican statewide successes from the 1970s to the 1990s but have trended Democratic in more recent years.
“The collar counties and suburban Cook County are drifting further and further away from the Republican Party,” Tracy said. “In order to win statewide again, we have got to reverse this trend and start winning again in the suburbs. That will be a primary focus of the state party.”
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IL GOP fails to take hint. Their shrinking support in state is a mystery to them. (Original Post) Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2022 OP
"angry white people that cannot be trusted to govern" is my new view of the Illinois GOP. Midnight Writer Dec 2022 #1
republicans can't believe the writing on the wall, and other glaring right-in-their-faces SWBTATTReg Dec 2022 #2
I found this really hard to read, due to the lack of paragraph breaks. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #3
Mostly angry white men... raising2moredems Dec 2022 #4
You're right. I've inserted some breaks and adjusted a couple other things. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2022 #5
Salvi Was A Contender? ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #6

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
1. "angry white people that cannot be trusted to govern" is my new view of the Illinois GOP.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 02:53 PM
Dec 2022

My old view is of a party that represents the Chamber of Commerce and ignores the rest of us.

Odd how "populism" meets the needs of the oligarchs so neatly. Strange bedfellows, yet it works for them.

Don Tracy has made himself a target by being the most sensible Republican in the room.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
2. republicans can't believe the writing on the wall, and other glaring right-in-their-faces
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 04:27 PM
Dec 2022

evidence that their crazy antics and step-by-step with the craziest one of all, djt, is hurting their efforts.

What would happen if the U.S. was attacked by an adversary if these republicans were ever in control again? I daresay that times would be grim for the U.S. if should such a thing happen.

As they say, Party before politics, Party before all. Somehow if I didn't know better, I'd say that the Communist Party is alive and well, in the cloned republican party.

ShazzieB

(16,407 posts)
3. I found this really hard to read, due to the lack of paragraph breaks.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 06:26 PM
Dec 2022

It's not quite a "wall of text," but pretty close.

I did some googling and found an easier to read version here: https://sports.yahoo.com/republican-grassroots-activists-vent-post-000900920.html

This one is even better, imo, because it has pictures: https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-illinois-gop-state-committee-2022-20221211-jgokkggjb5feromc4h2bimqmnm-story.html

The Trubune has a paywall, but I think it will let you read a story or 2 before it kicks in. (Not 100% sure about that, but may be worth a try?)

It sounds like the Illinois GOP is in "disarray," as some media outlets are fond of saying about Democrats. I loved the way they couldn't even agree on basic facts, such as whether Richard Irvin is a Republican or a "liberal." It sounds like there is some tension between the MAGA faction and more "mainstream" Republicans,

This bit really cracked me up:

“We have to recognize a lot of people see us as angry white people that cannot be trusted to govern,” [RNC committeeman] Porter said.


Excuse me? We don't think you Republicans are angry white people. We can clearly see that you are angry white people, and we know damned well that you can't be trusted to govern!

raising2moredems

(639 posts)
4. Mostly angry white men...
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 11:44 PM
Dec 2022

and what I deem petrified, detached from reality women - "oh no, I might have to get a job. I don't care if I'm treated as a second class citizen, that's the way jaysus wants it".
Since SCOTUS has no balls to quash gerrymandering, I think IL, NY, CA et al need to eradicate what passes for the "r" party these days. Jim Edgar spoke the truth, they won't listen.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,838 posts)
5. You're right. I've inserted some breaks and adjusted a couple other things.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:32 PM
Dec 2022

An actual re-write for this format would be more in order but, short of that, this should help with readability.

ProfessorGAC

(65,054 posts)
6. Salvi Was A Contender?
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 07:56 PM
Dec 2022
The audience included several losing Republican candidates, including Stephanie Trussell, the running mate to losing GOP governor candidate Darren Bailey, U.S. Senate contender Kathy Salvi, ...

She lost by a 15% margin. Over a half-million votes.
She wasn't a contender. She was a sacrificial lamb
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