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Why did Loebsack vote for the Keystone pipeline? (Original Post) 4dsc Nov 2014 OP
Don't you know? djean111 Nov 2014 #1
That surprises and disappoints me, as well. Frustratedlady Nov 2014 #2
He got a phone call from the 1%. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #3
Because Braley got beat. LiberalFighter Nov 2014 #4
and naturally took Braley's hard right stance PatrynXX Nov 2014 #5
I asked him and he said the 40,000 jobs it will create rurallib Dec 2014 #6
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Don't you know?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 09:26 AM
Nov 2014

Policy and and issues and principles and the environment, etc., are not nearly as important as getting into, and staying in, office.
That is the entire bottom line, in a nutshell.

Only social issues that do not really cost much money are advanced. Only social issues that increase profits are advanced, like the ACA. That's why single payer won't happen - no huge profits in that.

We seem to have accepted the false Sophie's Choice and the false equivalence of social issues and economic issues - we can have gay marriage, but, ridiculously, that will be supposed to make the TPP palatable. And that will happen quickly, I think, because Hillary does not want to have to talk about it. That is, if we have primaries at all. A push seems to be on, subtly, to say that well, since EVERYONE who is a Dem loves Hillary, why spend all that money and time, right?

I also think that passing things merely to ensure some sort of "legacy" is horrendous. Real people will be hurt by the TPP.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. That surprises and disappoints me, as well.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:17 AM
Nov 2014

Why ANYONE would vote in favor of it surprises me. I can see leaks all over the country. Shame on them all.

rurallib

(62,424 posts)
6. I asked him and he said the 40,000 jobs it will create
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 09:20 PM
Dec 2014

State Department numbers he said. I just shook my head and told him it would be the same group of people hired over and over and over. The jobs would disappear quickly and then there would be between 30 to 50 permanent jobs and a great threat of pollution.

He did bristle. He has gotten a lot of flack, especially from his core supporters

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