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mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:07 AM Dec 2017

Would you move to Baltimore's Inner Harbor?

In light of the violence and race problems in Baltimore, I'm curious whether those circumstances would be a deal breaker and sufficient to overcome all the positive attributes of the area for others.

Here's why I ask. I want to move. This is my list of wants for an area.

View of water.
Walkable neighborhood.
Shops, restaurants, entertainment within walking distance.
Good public transportation. Could get by without a car.
Seasonal but mild climate. (little snow and no 100 degree days)
Close to good health care services.
Nearby opportunities for volunteering.
Good selection of rental apartments within my budget ( must have view of water).
Blue state.

I have been applying that list of wants--which pretty much define a lot of European cities--and had come up with Baltimore's Inner Harbor. I can't afford DC, NY, Boston, Hoboken and some place like Charleston or Savannah are ruled out for climate and red state politics.

I was all set to plan a look see trip in February when a friend reminded me of the race problems in Baltimore. I knew about them, but had thought the high tourist area of the Inner Harbor would be relatively safe. Turns out there have been random violent attacks on whites by black adolescents in the Inner Harbor since the end of October. That's scary. Random violence in the streets is something I think we're going to see more of under this Trump and Republican regime.

So. What would you do? I am a white senior (66) female and would be living alone. Have never been afraid to travel alone and that includes walking the streets of NY or London or Paris by myself.


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Go look at Baltimore's Inner Harbor.
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Forget about Baltimore's Inner Harbor.
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Go look at European cities.
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Would you move to Baltimore's Inner Harbor? (Original Post) mnhtnbb Dec 2017 OP
Take a look at Annapolis. safeinOhio Dec 2017 #1
Annapolis has been on my list mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #5
I don't know Baltimore well, rogerashton Dec 2017 #2
Baltimore isn't mild in the summer. It's miserably hot and humid. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #3
This is kind of a fun comparison of weather mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #6
I live about 20 miles from Baltimore and I've spent plenty of time at the Inner Harbor in the summer 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #7
My friends lived near the Inner Harbor and loved it. no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #4
I'd surely look at it (with you!) elleng Dec 2017 #8
Thanks. mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #16
OK! elleng Dec 2017 #17
After my son spent 7 yrs in grad school Duppers Dec 2017 #9
Oh YES, Duppers, Bawlmer and DC get occasional big storms, elleng Dec 2017 #10
Wish I could post a pic of my son's car covered Duppers Dec 2017 #11
How SILLY! elleng Dec 2017 #12
I have a pic of his but let my acct expire. THIS... Duppers Dec 2017 #13
Yes, similar to look where I was. elleng Dec 2017 #14
That IS a doozy! mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #15
Right, ONE of the benefits of apartment/condo living! elleng Dec 2017 #18
This is true. So please don't let me discourage you. Duppers Dec 2017 #19
Baltimore is my city seltzerwater Dec 2017 #20
Thanks to those who have voted in my poll and written comments mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #21

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
1. Take a look at Annapolis.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:35 AM
Dec 2017

My brother lives there so visit every few years. Seems like it might fit your bill. Close to DC and Baltimore. Lots of history and I see lots of people out late at night downtown.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
5. Annapolis has been on my list
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:17 AM
Dec 2017

but it doesn't really have the walkable and excellent public transportation options for everything. I'm getting to the point where I'd like to not
have to deal with a car.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
2. I don't know Baltimore well,
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:43 AM
Dec 2017

but my impression is that the troubled districts are out toward the universities. I have visited Annapolis and agree that it could be very nice, but I suspect not cheap. My wife's uncle owned a waterside home there that was cheap in the 40's -- is now maintained by the billionaire Brock family as a place to stop off when they are in the Chesapeake on their yacht. Not cheap any more. Then again, if a river view would float your boat, check out Philadelphia. Gentrifying areas like Fishtown and Queen Village might give a view of the Delaware. The Schuylkill, our Seine, is a much smaller river but views of the Schuylkill should be easy. The public transportation system is old -- but that really is not a bad thing when it is maintained, and that has improved -- and it is very extensive, giving access to most of the city, the suburbs and some of the New Jersey suburbs. The old Quaker presence is still important in the city and there are many institutions that would welcome volunteers. And it is still a "greene country town" -- well, a green big city -- with extensive parklands accessible by public transportation. The weather is predictably unpredictable, but 3 days over 90 degrees are reported as a heat wave and harsh winter weather rarely lasts more than ten days without relief.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
6. This is kind of a fun comparison of weather
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:28 AM
Dec 2017

between Chapel Hill--where I've lived for the last 17 years--and Baltimore.

I dislike the heat/humidity of Chapel Hill in the summer and the lack of breeze. It's one reason I'd like to live near water to get a breeze in the summer, which
makes humidity a bit more bearable.

As I suspected, the charts show Baltimore would be likely less humid in summer with a greater chance of breeze.

https://weatherspark.com/compare/y/21918~19538/Comparison-of-the-Average-Weather-in-Baltimore-and-Chapel-Hill

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,011 posts)
7. I live about 20 miles from Baltimore and I've spent plenty of time at the Inner Harbor in the summer
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017

It's miserably hot and humid.

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
4. My friends lived near the Inner Harbor and loved it.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:54 AM
Dec 2017

And I loved visiting them too when they lived there.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
8. I'd surely look at it (with you!)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:20 AM
Dec 2017

A friend lived nearby some years ago. Would have to study lots of matters, and will check with my son in law, a deputy sheriff in another county, for detailed info for you.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
16. Thanks.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:25 PM
Dec 2017

It would definitely be helpful to hear what your SIL thinks. Sending you a pm about look see trip plans.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
9. After my son spent 7 yrs in grad school
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:50 AM
Dec 2017

At JHU, I know a little about Bmore. I think you'd love the Inner Harbor. I've stayed in Hotels there many times.

But little snow, did you say? Well, usually. However, bad snowstorms come every 6 or 7yrs and when they do, they're doozies...and gorgeous...





Duppers

(28,125 posts)
11. Wish I could post a pic of my son's car covered
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:07 PM
Dec 2017

With snow.

Funny thing...well kinda not: he/his car was ticketed for violating restricted parking hours the morning *after* this snowstorm pictured above. I kid you NOT!! They even sent a wrecker to tow his car and the wrecker couldn't move it, according to a neighbor who watched!!

He had to show up in court, so the ticket was dismissed.




elleng

(130,974 posts)
12. How SILLY!
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:14 PM
Dec 2017

I was in a DC suburb last big snowstorm, and DID get pics of my car in parking lot. NEVER thought I'd get it out, but the thaw finally happened.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
13. I have a pic of his but let my acct expire. THIS...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:26 PM
Dec 2017

Was rather what it looked like in Bmore...


Yep, it was silly.

My son borrowed his neighbors' shovel to dig his car out.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
14. Yes, similar to look where I was.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:28 PM
Dec 2017

I did get some nice snow pics.



I assume we're not frightening mnhtnbb!

elleng

(130,974 posts)
18. Right, ONE of the benefits of apartment/condo living!
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:37 PM
Dec 2017

You could visit me, 60 miles south of DC, when we hear a big storm is coming, and 'camp out,' as my unpaved road/path doesn't get shoveled out, but I prepare to be at home and enjoy the scenery!

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
19. This is true. So please don't let me discourage you.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:27 PM
Dec 2017

There are some nice restaurants in that area too, within walking distance. You'll find great delis, good bars, and bistros throughout the city. And when visiting, try the Rusty Scupper in the Harbor.





seltzerwater

(53 posts)
20. Baltimore is my city
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:57 AM
Dec 2017

I wouldn't live anywhere else. Yes there is crime. So fucking what. Your likely to never even notice it in harbor east or canton or federal hill.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
21. Thanks to those who have voted in my poll and written comments
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:27 PM
Dec 2017

I've booked my trip to go take a look see in February!

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