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Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:09 AM Nov 2012

Embarrassed for this state

How can we have voted for Obama but against everything he stands for? How can people here vote for pollution, loss of workplace rights, screwing over the elderly, and against the power of their own vote by approving unelected government? Selfish idiots.

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Embarrassed for this state (Original Post) Union Scribe Nov 2012 OP
Which State ? n/t joesdaughter Nov 2012 #1
Michigan? Wednesdays Nov 2012 #2
It is mind boggling I agree. erinlough Nov 2012 #3
Face it. We live in Dumfukistan. TahitiNut Nov 2012 #4
You lost me a little: where did we approve unelected government? JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Nov 2012 #7
Sorry, my bad, The emergency manager law was rejected. nt Union Scribe Nov 2012 #8
We over-reached JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #6
That was my thought too 1gobluedem Nov 2012 #9
who over reached? TruthTeller Nov 2012 #10
I agree with your assessment. susanna Nov 2012 #11
Count me as one michigandem58 Nov 2012 #12
my mind is boggled underoath Dec 2012 #13

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
4. Face it. We live in Dumfukistan.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:46 AM
Nov 2012

The lemmings run in herds to commit suicide for the sake of the vultures.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
5. You lost me a little: where did we approve unelected government?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:44 AM
Nov 2012

I guess I used up most of my embarrassment back when we elected Snyder. Undo the Republican stranglehold on state govt and the other ballot measures could be enacted without amendments.

Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #5)

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
6. We over-reached
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:39 AM
Nov 2012

Simple as that. All those changes to our state constitution at once? Short sighted. Especially with the fact massive money would be poured in to defeat this changes.

I never harbored much hope for any of them. We should have pushed forward on one or two at a time.

Hopefully we learn from this going forward.

Julie

TruthTeller

(192 posts)
10. who over reached?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:41 PM
Nov 2012

I never heard about prop 3 petitions. Matty M. put 2 props--5 & 6 on the ballot. EM law prop not backed by all unions. Prop 4 was being collected by Matty M. collectorsin Royal Oak. Who did the overreach?

susanna

(5,231 posts)
11. I agree with your assessment.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:52 PM
Nov 2012

I supported most of these initiatives on their face, but making practically all of them Constitutional Amendments scared off a lot of people I know. The Detroit Free Press - our more liberal paper - didn't endorse most of them for that very reason.

 

michigandem58

(1,044 posts)
12. Count me as one
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:17 PM
Nov 2012

Prop 2 just seemed to make collective bargaining trump state law. The energy and home health care initiatives are worthy, it just doesn't seem they should be in the constitution.

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