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cbreezen

(694 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:39 AM Jan 2018

Oregon votors overwhelmingly pass Measure 101

with 61% voting to save Oregon's Medicaid program in the face of inaction and division in Washington, DC. The monies come from an additional tax on hospitals and a tax on health insurance companies.

I wish it were easier for me to post a good link without retyping the entire URL, but I'm sure someone here else could do that.

I am one happy mom of a special needs kid, and I love, love, love my state!


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Oregon votors overwhelmingly pass Measure 101 (Original Post) cbreezen Jan 2018 OP
It's always easy to vote for taxes on "somebody else" customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #1
The hospital tax is .7% cbreezen Jan 2018 #2
Yes, they're seemingly tiny customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #15
Measure 101 Timewas Jan 2018 #3
Interestingly enough, one of the sponsors who forced the ballot Kittycow Jan 2018 #5
I actually think that submitting controversial bills cbreezen Jan 2018 #11
It is also temporary and was meant to cbreezen Jan 2018 #9
Why a sales tax? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #19
I used to live in Washington, near the border with Oregon customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #20
Yea, us! CanonRay Jan 2018 #4
Yeah, I was kind of surprised at that. Kittycow Jan 2018 #6
Not too surprising Timewas Jan 2018 #7
What was the percentage of registered votors who returned their ballots? nt cbreezen Jan 2018 #10
I think it was just over 10% CanonRay Jan 2018 #12
Ehhhhh. Stunning. nt cbreezen Jan 2018 #13
Way to go Oregon! Nitram Jan 2018 #8
So sorry I missed your post! cbreezen Jan 2018 #16
As the happy wife of a guy born in Roseburg - raven mad Jan 2018 #14
Thanks for sharing in our excitement. cbreezen Jan 2018 #17
LOL! Disraeli rocks, too! raven mad Jan 2018 #18

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
1. It's always easy to vote for taxes on "somebody else"
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jan 2018

Hopefully, this doesn't cause hospital fees and insurance premiums to rise to cover the expense of the taxes, but past performance leads me to expect otherwise.

If Oregonians had voted to impose a sales tax to pay for this, then I would have more admirable feelings about their political courage, but everyone there knows that such a measure would be dead on arrival.

cbreezen

(694 posts)
2. The hospital tax is .7%
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jan 2018

The insurance premium tax is to be no more than 1.5%.

Everyone registered to vote, had a right to have their voices heard.

The "yes" votes greatly outnumbered the "no" votes.

I will counter you and say that 61% of the people of our state believe that covering the elderly, the disabled, and the poor is more important than these small tax increases.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. Yes, they're seemingly tiny
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jan 2018

but don't be surprised if hospitals, and especially insurers find a way to squeeze the money out of patients and ratepayers instead of CEO salaries.

Timewas

(2,195 posts)
3. Measure 101
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jan 2018

Did nothing to raise the taxes at all, it merely stopped the existing system from ending, overall nothing has changed ..it's main goal is to retain health insurance for the low income as it is ...

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
5. Interestingly enough, one of the sponsors who forced the ballot
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:30 PM
Jan 2018

was "raised on entitlements during her childhood." And she has family members on the Oregon Health Plan.

But yeah, Jamie Herrera, do your best to make sure today's working poor etc don't get those benefits. (Her idea was to raise tobacco taxes again.)

cbreezen

(694 posts)
11. I actually think that submitting controversial bills
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:49 PM
Jan 2018

to a vote by the People is a good thing. When I look at that win percentage, it seems clear to me this wasn't just a Portland vote, or an inordinately high turnout by Democrats. It seems as if this is an important issue for Republicans and Independents, as well.

cbreezen

(694 posts)
9. It is also temporary and was meant to
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jan 2018

stabilize the funding for the 2017-2019 health care budget. We, as a state, definitely have some important work ahead of us, but we now have a little bit of breathing room.

Either which way, it is a win for Oregonians!

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
19. Why a sales tax?
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 10:40 PM
Jan 2018

Why insist on a tax that hits the people who need this service harder than everybody else?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
20. I used to live in Washington, near the border with Oregon
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:05 PM
Feb 2018

The voters in Washington always have turned down an income tax, and the voters in Oregon have always turned down a sales tax. It's not that one state is more "progressive" than the other, it's just that the voters in each of the two states likes only having two "legs" of the tax stool to deal with.

The point is, it calls to mind what Democratic Senator Russell B. Long, from Louisiana is credited with saying, "Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree." It takes political courage to vote to tax oneself, and I've noted that voters in the more urbanized areas of Portland and Seattle have indeed voted for taxes to build and maintain mass transit.

Just as taxes pay for things that benefit a part (or maybe most) of society, there are parts of every society that bear the expense of the taxes. My prediction is that the costs will not be borne by six-figure hospital administrators or seven-figure health insurance CEO's.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
4. Yea, us!
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jan 2018

But the turnout was embarrassingly low. There is nowhere on earth it is easier to vote than Oregon.

Timewas

(2,195 posts)
7. Not too surprising
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 01:21 PM
Jan 2018

But really stupid, I live in the fifth lowest income count in Oregon, Douglas, and this county actually voted against it...True red enclave here went for trump and always votes for Gop and against their own best interests..

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