Pennsylvania
Related: About this forumPA Voter ID law a problem for Amish, others.
There are always unintended consequences to laws. The Republicans thought that this was a grand old idea. Now, they are having second thoughts---and I would expect that has to do with how Amish are almost all Republicans if they do vote. Interestingly, they didn't see this coming:
http://www.wkbn.com/content/news/pastate/story/Pa-Voter-ID-law-a-problem-for-Amish-others/-Q07St5xX0y5wfv0-BJR4g.cspx
To get a nonphoto ID for religious reasons, applicants must answer a series of 18 questions that delve deeply into their faiths and other personal information.
"They are going to be keeping them from the polls, keeping American citizens from the polls," Folmer said. "That's what I'm concerned about."
I saw another story where one Republican supporter of this law (edit to add: Sen Mike Folmer) said he would not have voted for it if he had known about this. Really??? He voted for a bill that he hadn't read? Point taken.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)It's astonishing how little thought is going into these knee-jerk, reactionary initiatives... across the board.
It's like they are just RAW ID, flailing about in the legislative body.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)was democrats. Then he didn't mind
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)your fellow citizens you are not going to vote for this bill WHICH is probably going to back fire. Granted I don't know many but the couple I've spoken to at doctor's office give the indication that they generally vote Republican.
enough
(13,262 posts)disenfranchise some reliable right-wing white voters like the Amish from exercising their inalienable rights.
One of the most longterm rotting-flesh right-wingers in the congress (Joe Pitts) counts on these votes in Lancaster County PA year after year. (PA-16)
msongs
(67,441 posts)enough
(13,262 posts)"regular-sounding" names will be exempt. That will include the Amish.
I can say that, I'm from PA and know what I'm talking about.
libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)provis99
(13,062 posts)they'd make those Amish shave their beards.
drm604
(16,230 posts)that pacifists would vote Republican.
enough
(13,262 posts)that is the normal daily (year-round) fare in PA, and has been since time immemorial. Every day we get some slick full-color mailing telling us that Obama is going to take away our Medicare, our guns, our religion, our children, whatev.
(Oh, and he's going to give it all to sluts and people who don't want to work.)
The Amish are in no way immune to this stuff, possibly more susceptible, because less media-hardened.
drm604
(16,230 posts)Although I don't recall seeing anything about Obama taking away any of that stuff, but that's probably because I throw that crap in the trash without even reading it.
But it still strikes me as hypocritical for the Amish to vote for Republicans. As I understand it, the Amish don't even believe in self defense. I know both parties support defense (and I agree we need defense) but the Republicans are the bigger warmongers.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)because of that perceived "conservative" stand. And of course, they want small government---they really live that meme of keeping government out of their lives.
And then there is that "rural thinking".....almost every rural area is solid red.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)health bill before they voted on it.
Boggles the mind.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)which makes it all the more amusing to me.
appleannie1
(5,068 posts)And they are a huge part of the population of this state. They believe that a camera taking their image will open a door for Satan and they don't even want people photographing their homes, let alone them.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)They did not expect this abuse of power to hurt THEM. But really, how far up their butt was their head---all of us in PA know that there are a large number of Amish communities here. And all of us know that they refuse to have their picture taken. So why don't these lawmakers know this?
durablend
(7,464 posts)"The Amish don't vote....I seen it personally so I know it's TRUE!"
Yes folks this is what they're going with.
JPZenger
(6,819 posts)Oh, it is really easy to get a photo ID to vote.... all you need is an original copy of your birth certificate .... which you have to pay for ...and have to know how to the process ... and which may take up to 10 weeks for the state to send out to you.
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=379471
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I had my original birth certificate in a security lock box that was stolen when my house was burglarized, so I had to jump through all the hoops to get another one. I knew that this would become a problem. I wish I wasn't right so often----they never surprise me.