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BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:29 PM Nov 2022

Pa. Supreme Court orders counties to set aside undated and wrongly dated mail ballots and not count

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Pa. Supreme Court orders counties to set aside undated and wrongly dated mail ballots and not count them



by Jonathan Lai and Jeremy Roebuck
Published an hour ago

Pennsylvania counties must segregate and not count mail ballots with missing or incorrect dates, the state Supreme Court said Tuesday, in a ruling that could affect thousands of votes in November’s midterm elections.

“The Pennsylvania county boards of elections are hereby ordered to refrain from counting any absentee and mail-in ballots received for the November 8, 2022 general election that are contained in undated or incorrectly dated outer envelopes,” the court said in its order Tuesday afternoon.

The justices said they were deadlocked, 3-3, on whether rejecting undated and wrongly dated mail ballots violates federal civil rights law. They did not immediately issue any opinions that would explain the order and said they would come later. It was not immediately clear whether the court intended to have the ballots rejected altogether, since it ordered counties to set them aside and “refrain” from counting them.

“We hereby direct that the Pennsylvania county boards of elections segregate and preserve any ballots contained in undated or incorrectly dated outer envelopes,” the court said in the brief order.

(snip)

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-supreme-court-undated-mail-ballots-20221101.html


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I forgot they lost Max Baer so only have 6 on the Court. One of the (D) judges sided with the 2 (R)s.

I know some counties allow "curing" but am not sure which ones. I think at least here in Philly, there was a lot of promotions (ads including broadcast, snail mail, and social media) to those using mail ballots, to make sure to sign and date the outer envelopes and make sure the ballot was put in the secrecy envelope before putting it in the outer envelope.

But I also want to point out that although Democrats tend to use mail ballots more than Republicans in general, that doesn't mean that Democrats ONLY use mail ballots and that no Democrats will actually show up at the polls. I know even one of my sisters (who is a Democrat and lives in a suburban county) prefers to vote "in person" (her hubby has been a judge of elections in the past during most elections).
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Pa. Supreme Court orders counties to set aside undated and wrongly dated mail ballots and not count (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 OP
GQP are sure fighting any process re voting... Lovie777 Nov 2022 #1
Forgetting a date would invalidate most professional forms. jimfields33 Nov 2022 #6
Yea ........ Lovie777 Nov 2022 #12
The post office stamps the date on the postage FakeNoose Nov 2022 #14
It's bound to hurt gqp too. Possibly forgetful with age PortTack Nov 2022 #2
The local tv stations have been vigilant about badhair77 Nov 2022 #3
Thank you to your sister for voting in Pennsylvania ..... LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #4
Me & my other sis mailed our ballots here in PA (we 3 are in different counties) BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #9
THANK YOU ALL, for voting to save our democracy in the Keystone State .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #10
My sisters and I and a couple cousins text back and forth BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #13
Precise why I vote in person. SheltieLover Nov 2022 #5
I am in habit of living in and relating to and writing a day-month-year sanatanadharma Nov 2022 #7
There are a lot of current and former military who do that BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #11
I prefer to name the month. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2022 #15
Yep, this is why I vote in person early. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2022 #8

jimfields33

(15,857 posts)
6. Forgetting a date would invalidate most professional forms.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:43 PM
Nov 2022

I think maybe putting a big circle around where the date is would help maybe.

FakeNoose

(32,669 posts)
14. The post office stamps the date on the postage
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:33 PM
Nov 2022

Why isn't that good enough? The Dems have already argued this in court - and won - last year.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
3. The local tv stations have been vigilant about
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:35 PM
Nov 2022

stressing the need to sign and date the envelopes. I’m hoping if any voters don’t that they’re repubs. Some of them fight following directions.

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
9. Me & my other sis mailed our ballots here in PA (we 3 are in different counties)
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:58 PM
Nov 2022

Mine was received and recorded Oct. 18 so we "mailers" are done!

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
13. My sisters and I and a couple cousins text back and forth
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:11 PM
Nov 2022

and the cousin who lives in GA early-voted last week so that's another vote on the books - in GA to boot!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. Precise why I vote in person.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:36 PM
Nov 2022

Not a popular opinion on DU, but I absolutely would never trust dejoy's dysfunction with my vote.

sanatanadharma

(3,709 posts)
7. I am in habit of living in and relating to and writing a day-month-year
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:45 PM
Nov 2022

So due to a writing habit I could be disfranchised in a month-day-year world.

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
11. There are a lot of current and former military who do that
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:02 PM
Nov 2022

I had coworkers who did it automatically as well as tending to "accidentally" use 24 hour clock time.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
15. I prefer to name the month.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:13 PM
Nov 2022

So today is Nov 1, 2022. Alternatively, 1 Nov, 2022. Either way it's crystal clear.

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