Pennsylvania
Related: About this forumCorbett: Unemployment is so high because so many unemployed Pennsylvanians are on drugs
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/04/30/1939341/governor-poor-jobs-numbers-unemployed-people-on-drugs/(Link includes video)
One Term Tommy has been trying to explain why his love of fracking and his hatred of public education has not resulted in reduced unemployment in Pennsylvania. Instead, we have filled fracking jobs with temporary Texas residents who have a bad habit of getting arrested for drunk driving.
His new explanation is that employers would just love to hire more people, but too many unemployed Pennsylvanians are on drugs.
Excerpt:
"Corbett (R) is facing an uphill fight for re-election as he battles negative job approval ratings and a slow economic recovery. The states unemployment rate has dropped to 7.9 percent, but the number of people working in Pennsylvania tumbled by about 14,000 in March, following a drop of 6,000 in February. Private employment has remained flat for 13 months, growing by a mere 1,000 jobs and landing the state 49th in the nation for job creation during March.
During an appearance on a local radio show this week, Corbett sought to explain away Pennsylvanias less than stellar performance, arguing that the state gained 111,000 private sector jobs since he took office and is doing better than other states. But then he grew defensive and complained that a lot of businesses are still having trouble filling their ranks because too many Pennsylvanians use illegal drugs:
CORBETT: 'The other area is, there are many employers that say were looking for people but we cant find anybody that has passed a drug test, a lot of them. And thats a concern for me because were having a serious problem with that.' "
(That's real - it is not photoshop)
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)thatgemguy
(506 posts)I have to call bullshit on the statement.
appleannie1
(5,068 posts)my beautiful state into a joke. They are like a disease that has descended on Harrisburg.
eppur_se_muova
(36,280 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Considering that the workforce of the USA worked through the 60s' 70s, 80s, and a good portion of the 90s, without mass mandatory drug testing and did fine (not counting the idiocy of corporate managements, the auto industry, heavy industry, etc).
Allowing/forcing Corporations to hold what private citizens do in the privacy of their homes and on their own times with no real consequences in regard to workplace safety due to time of inebriation vs time of any test (testing which shows a positive exposure up to and including 30 days in the past) to fight an anti-drug war forty years in the losing, might be counter productive.
Unless the excuse of rampant drug use is just the current strawman for your failed programs.
blue neen
(12,327 posts)Especially the last line!
JPZenger
(6,819 posts)In addition to showing that our Governor is out of touch, this comment raises other important national questions.
Are employers refusing to hire people because they decide to smoke a little pot on their own time?
I can certainly understand that we want to be extra careful with pilots, bus drivers, etc. I also understand that no one should be buzzed or drunk while on the job. (My kids are subject to random drug tests for their summer jobs). I can also understand employer concerns about hard drugs.
But are people getting turned away from warehouse jobs because of what they do on their own time?
Are employers using drug tests as a way to try to screen employees for other behaviors, in the same way that they may refuse to hire people with bad credit ratings?
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I remember an article a couple years ago about the huge percentage of applicants for jobs to be a Philadelphia cop never come back for an interview after they find out that there will be drug screening. I know of a guy who was kicked out of an interview to be a state cop in another state because he honestly admitted he had smoked pot within the last 5 years (it was 4 years prior). He was hooked up to a lie detector at the time. He actually would have made a great state cop.
Are we warping the type of people who can become police officers if we only consider people who have never ever been stoned?
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"a study in 2011 by the Society for Human Resource Management revealed that 57 percent of the organizations surveyed conducted pre-employment drug tests on all new hires. Many of those surveyed reported that drug testing improved absenteeism and productivity. Other motivators included better safety records and lowered insurance rates."
-from a legal website posting
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Here's a posting about how long a drug test can detect marijuana after it has been used. It says it does not show up for long in a blood test, but can show up many days later in a urine test. I don't know the reliability of this this post:
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana_test.htm
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)"Our clients would hire more employees, but all the applicants flunk drug test." Well, I always call them on it and ask who these potential employers are so I can send people to fill those jobs......I have never once gotten a tip on who has jobs for friends that I know will pass the drug tests. Never once.
It sure sounds good, though, doesn't it???? The argument they used before this one was "there are no qualified applicants in PA so we have to bring experienced people from TX and OK". With so many people now training for the drilling industry, they need a new excuse. Well, too many people know the truth, and I am hoping that they vote.
livetohike
(22,156 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)in other states? Because otherwise how could you explain the fact that PA is 49th in job creation?
JPZenger
(6,819 posts)http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20130501_Corbett_again_sees_fault_among_jobless.html
This story made the front page of the Phila. Inquirer today.
It turns out that Corbett was mainly talking about the experience of the frackers, who are the main people who he talks to every day. They have a zero tolerance policy for all drug use, which makes it hard for them to fill all of their slots. Alcoholism is fine, just don't smoke a joint on the weekend.
JPZenger
(6,819 posts)here's one example of many many posts on this issue:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/30/1205876/-PA-Gov-Tom-Corbett-R-Most-unemployed-people-are-on-drugs
JPZenger
(6,819 posts)"The nationwide rate of workers testing positive for drugs declined between 1988 and mid-2012 from nearly 14 percent to about 4, according to Quest Diagnostics, a leading provider of drug and medical tests.
In Pennsylvania, the rate for workers testing positive for drugs is 3.8 percent, compared with the overall U.S. workforce figure of 4.1 percent, they said."