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TexasTowelie

(112,204 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:19 AM Dec 2015

Greg Abbott choses to protect companies over employees in pension fight

Governors can take sides without opening their mouths, simply by siding with people who have opened their own mouths.

So until you hear otherwise from the man himself, it’s probably safe to say Gov. Greg Abbott has some big questions about how the state should pay for retirement benefits for its 310,000-plus employees.

Abbott appointed Josh McGee as presiding officer of the Pension Review Board, which oversees state and local public retirement systems in the state. McGee has been an outspoken advocate for pension reform in his policy jobs with the Houston-based Laura and John Arnold Foundation and with the Manhattan Institute, alarming and angering a number of public employee unions that view such reforms as an attack on the retirement plans they hold dear.

The unions want to protect the "defined benefit" plans of the sort now in place for state and many local public employees in Texas. Those require employers — governments, in this case — to come up with the money to cover the benefits they have promised their retired workers, whether those governments set aside enough money or not.

"Defined contribution" plans, on the other hand, require employers to put in a certain amount without guaranteeing the outcome. Some, like McGee, have suggested phasing those in for new public employees.

Read more: http://www.texastribune.org/2015/12/04/analysis-taking-position-without-saying-word/

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Greg Abbott choses to protect companies over employees in pension fight (Original Post) TexasTowelie Dec 2015 OP
Pension plans will be a fight for decades yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #1
I used to work for the state. TexasTowelie Dec 2015 #3
I recall reading many years ago, possibly SheilaT Dec 2015 #4
You can bet that these clowns' pensions will not be touched, just the workers'. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #2
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. Pension plans will be a fight for decades
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:31 AM
Dec 2015

States should be required to fund them adequately. For a long time, states pretended money was not needed. Soon states are going to be sorry for not funding them properly. Seems the only workers that are going to guarantee their pensions fully intact will be the post office but they are having to painfully do it but at least the money will be there. Others with pensions will always be a political pawn. I know some whose pensions have been cut in half. How fair is that? And who know by the time they are elderly, they may have nothing. It sucks!

TexasTowelie

(112,204 posts)
3. I used to work for the state.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:19 PM
Dec 2015

When I was employed the Employee Retirement System was funded at about 90% (27 years out of 30), but as of 2011 it is 83% funded. That is still far better than most states though.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. I recall reading many years ago, possibly
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:08 PM
Dec 2015

in the 1970's, that state and municipal pensions were underfunded and would eventually be a huge problem. Naturally, no one in a position to do anything about properly funding the pensions bothered.

Unfortunately, what's happening here is what happened to so many company pensions a decade or so ago. I'm one of those. I worked for USAirways for ten years and was vested in the pension before I left the job in 1979. Fortunately, I never counted on that pension to be worth much of anything, and that's good because what I am now receiving is approximately a third of what it should be. It's far worse for those who worked up to retirement age and included original pension estimates in their planning.

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