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Related: About this forumPublic school advocates say big protests aren't the way to go in fighting Walker's education policie
Well, I read this and am ambivalent.
Teach in's are great--I have attended many in my day. But so are protests. Why not both.??
Public school advocates say big protests aren't the way to go in fighting Walker's education policies. http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/pat_schneider/public-school-advocates-teach-about-don-t-protest-against-scott/article_c48d0b94-6411-57b4-b105-b45bf0a4748d.html#ixzz3SDLp9zkq
Public school advocates: Teach about, don't protest against, Scott Walkers education policies
February 19, 2015 9:30 am By Pat Schneider
Hundreds turned out on the UW-Madison campus Feb. 14 to protest cuts to the university system in Scott Walker's budget.
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.............The Stop the Train forum brought together educators, students and community members to scrutinize education reform policies and rhetoric and share their stories. The conversation was animated by Walkers biennium budget proposal, which would expand school vouchers, make setting up private charter schools easier and cut funding to the UW System by $300 million.
Protesters in 2011 came out by the tens of thousands and occupied the state Capitol in an effort to halt Walkers legislation gutting the collective bargaining rights of public employees. Since Walker unveiled his controversial budget two weeks ago, hundreds have marched at UW-Madison and UW-Milwaukee, and protested at his Wauwatosa home an action he is trying to use to discredit the opposition.
Protests make headlines, but they may not be the best strategy, participants reflected Monday at what organizers hope will be the first of several forums sponsored by Edgewood. They spoke instead about the power of building support for public education through discourse and holding legislators accountable for their duty to the electorate. The session was recorded by Wisconsin Eye and is available here.
Some of us love to protest. I was involved myself last time around, said James Hartwick, a professor of education at UW-Whitewater. This time, I think, we should spend our time contacting those sympathetic legislators who are upset at the fiscal irresponsibility in this budget. There are many Republicans who are signaling that they would break rank if they heard enough outcry writing letters, contacting them, getting people you know to do the same. I think thats what Im going to do and I hope you do, too.
Hartwick stressed he was speaking as an individual.
Parent Gail Martinelli encouraged educators to mount teach-ins in the style of the anti -Vietnam War movement..............
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randys1
(16,286 posts)The Koch Bros must destroy education to achieve their goal, so I say protest AND the other...
And protest really loud and obnoxiously
riversedge
(70,239 posts)legislatures. and am encouraging others to do so.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I really don't see that protests do much good anymore. I believe when they get big enough, we're thrown a bone to shut us up. The boycotts do more. Like Walmart not bringing in the kazillions it's used to so they finally threw a bone out.
I feel like we're doomed at this point. Not unlike the leaders of SDS were feeling in 1970. Protests were huge against the war at that time and yet we went into Cambodia. SDSers felt hopeless and the Weather Underground was born. Turned out that the protests finally worked. But it took years.
I don't see that happening now. We're more "owned" than we were then. We are slaves to the kochs. I don't know how we get out of it without a revolution. And I don't think enough people understand or have the heart for it. At least not yet.
marym625
(17,997 posts)AleksS
(1,665 posts)'Ambivalent' sums up my feelings too.
Unfortunately we have first hand evidence that they don't work, and in fact make the people being protested against entrench themselves more firmly.
SO that sucks. And that kind of makes it a waste of resources--IF directly stopping/changing policy is the only measure of success.
But I feel like there are other ways to gauge success. I hope so. I hope that the days spent out freezing and marching and singing weren't a total waste. Did the protests draw attention? Yup. Did they activate people that would otherwise have been passive? Yup. Are those things worthwhile? Yup. Did they stop any of the messed up policies Koch-co have been inflicting on the state? Nope.
Would teach-ins have been more effective? Maybe. They couldn't be less effective--at least from a directly affecting policy position. On the other hand, would they have activated as many people? Or garnered as much attention? I would love to see another rubric to measure success. I don't know how you could, or even what you'd be looking for though. AND, if it doesn't change policy, what's the point of getting attention or getting people politically active?
We'll see. I love my state. But gosh if that hasn't been harder to do for the last 5 years.