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I have long ago stopped reading the comments section!!
George Stanley
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JSOnline comments will be limited to paid subscribers starting Feb 15 to encourage more civil forums http://buff.ly/1W2iXNu
First, we had to eliminate commenting from our obituaries.
We learned this by rude experience immediately after we first allowed commenting on JSOnline. Possessed by a meanness that is hard for people of goodwill to comprehend, strangers hiding in online anonymity would spit venom beneath the story of a deceased person they had chosen to hate because of occupation, race, education, religion, political leaning, nation of origin or maybe just because they had led an admirable life.
Next, we had to block comments from many stories about life in the city.
If you think racism is largely a sin of the past in America, you haven't seen what some will say from under the hood of a digital avatar or phony name. Last Sunday's story about the city's 152 homicide victims nearly all of them young, some of them infants and children brought out the very worst among us, including one anonymous coward who emailed that he wished the death toll were higher.
Many stories draw hundreds, even thousands of comments, posted all hours day and night. We don't have the staff to prescreen or continually read all comments. Our readers help us flag people who break the rules so we can take the comments down and suspend or revoke their privileges.
Problem is, the rule breakers return under new names and emails.
Starting on Feb. 15, we will finally have the technology available to restrict online commenting to paid subscribers. And that's what we will do.
We offer commenting to encourage a forum for civil conversation, a place where folks from various walks of life can contribute their personal knowledge, thoughts and expertise. Before writing their first comment, users agree to follow basic rules of civil behavior: no personal attacks, harassment, threats, obscenities, bearing of false witness and so on.
Many of our paying customers have asked us to do a better job enforcing those rules. As one put it, the worst comments "contribute to the divisiveness and lack of civility we are experiencing" and also "allow paid operatives the opportunity to stir the pot."..........................
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gnarlytrombone ?@gnarlytrombone Feb 7
gnarlytrombone Retweeted George Stanley
I recall the MJS running house ads about how its columnists "make liberals see red." #sowing #reaping
MADem
(135,425 posts)Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn!
AleksS
(1,665 posts)You know, the thing is, I bet a lot of the most vile comments are FROM their paid subscribers.
They've been playing to their disgusting hate-base for years. It'll be interesting to see how much worse the comments get when only their subscribers are allowed to post their bullshit. I imagine the folks with a shred of human decency are highly outnumbered by the right wing hate-squad when you break down MJS subscriber demographics.
47of74
(18,470 posts)The local paper (Telegraph Herald) had all manner of problems with their online comments.
First after a murder of a white male by a black someone put up an image of a lynching over and over again. They took down the comments altogether so they could lock down the system to keep such images from being posted again. At that point the TH implemented a system where one either had to be a paid subscriber or verified their information either by coming in to the office or providing a credit card for verification. That didn't help too much with cutting down on the vile comments. Most of the people who were posting garbage before were paid subscribers so it didn't change anything.
About 1.5 years ago they switched over to a Facebook plugin for comments. The same people are posting the same vile comments, some people keep posting them under their real names. The nice thing about the paper using Facebook is that since I'm already blocking the local right wing asshole contingent on Facebook their comments do not show up anymore.
One thing I did notice is that it's about the same dozen people who comment on articles. There isn't too much variety in the people who post or the subject matter of their comments. I'm guessing most subscribers don't have the time or energy to engage these clowns nor want to get into long drawn out arguments with them.
Jimbo S
(2,959 posts)I see limiting the posters as limiting the give-and-take discussions. I post on an occasion.
dembotoz
(16,826 posts)worked in advertising in milw for like 20 years.....
drive thru large chunks of urban milwaukee you will see pretty much a commercial desert
advertisers want the media to hit those who buy their products.
the stores are in the burbs the customers are in the burbs, the focus of the media is the burbs.
the urinal wants the burbs to be its main readership
it would die if it offended them
the burbs is segregation central the home of jim crow, driving while black, send the poor folks to jail kkk wearing brownshirts.
the urinal will reflect this.
it will endorse a dem or two in the city cause...well they don't give a shit. but on bigger stuff...gop central.
just how it is
hence when the comments are limited to subscribers only? expect full kkk robes