Wisconsin
Related: About this forumEarly voting Bgins TODAY in WI & I shall cast the proudest ballot in my lifetime->HILLARY
Zanti Misfit
?@ZantiMisft
Early voting begins tomorrow in Wisconsin, and I shall cast the proudest ballot in my lifetime: @HillaryClinton for President. #ImWithHer
Cha
(297,484 posts)Laser102
(816 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Shoring up Hillary's nomination, she still needs everyone, big numbers to go to the GE.
DrBulldog
(841 posts)So I voted for Richard Nixon and his great unsubstantiated promises.
And then I regretted for the next fifty years that I was too lazy to learn that Humphrey was one of our nation's greatest and most progressive Senators who just happened to be fat.
And regretted for the next fifty years to ignore Nixon's already then-known record of corruption. (History has also since proven he had committed criminal treason against the United States that summer of 1968 when he secretly sabotaged a pending peace agreement with the North Vietnamese.)
So since then I have taken the voting process much more seriously.
I will never make that same mistake again with Hillary Rodham Clinton. I've taken the time to know exactly who she is and what she has done.
Bernie Sanders has been one of our nation's greatest politicians - for the same fifty years I have lived with my regrets. My regrets are stopping here.
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SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)debunction.junction
(127 posts)I graduated high school in 1968 and was sent to Vietnam by Richard Nixon.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Thank you for posting.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Hillary, release the transcripts of your $225,000 speeches! So the voters can know where you really stand.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)why you don't support healthcare for all? And tuition free college? And minimum wage at 12, not 15 an hour?
The list goes on and on.
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forest444
(5,902 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)This balloon perfectly captures Hillary's warmongering and the fact that neocon founder Robert Kagan endorsed her for President---
"Hillary Clinton: Soaring to new, dangerous heights while taking unsuspecting Americans along for the ride."
The next imagine should be the balloon hitting telephone wires.
debunction.junction
(127 posts)The right to vote is something that we should cherish and not take for granted.
All of us should respect one's choice of whom they support, even if it makes no sense to another person.
HelenWheels
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)alfredo
(60,075 posts)Not voting for the Dem nominee in November only helps the Fascist party.
alfredo
(60,075 posts)I liked it.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/20/opinions/why-the-hate-for-hillary-clinton-opinion-parini/index.html
Before I got out of bed this morning, my wife asked: "Why do they hate Hillary Clinton so much?"
Although I voted in the primary for Bernie Sanders, my senator from Vermont, I don't dislike Clinton in the least. Quite the opposite. I will happily vote for her in November.
She is an admirable public servant, despite her obvious flaws, which are mostly the consequence of her decades in positions of authority. Every coin has two sides.
riversedge
(70,270 posts)....As for Wall Street: The financial industry has supplied roughly 3.9% of Clinton's funding, or 7% if you count money from related PACs. She did, of course, make a fair number of speeches to big banks -- though by no means did the bulk of her income as a speaker derive from those speeches.
And what did Wall Street get for its money? Not much.
In the Senate, she voted for TARP, the Bush plan to bail out the banks. But this was a wise move, in my view, helping to rescue an economy in free fall. She argued from the floor: "For two years, I and others have called for action as wave after wave of defaults and foreclosures crashed against communities and the broader economy." She has, in fact, called for a tax on high frequency trading, the sort of maneuvering that puts people's retirement savings at risk.
Not perfect, but smart and experienced
In general, Clinton has been fairly sympathetic to Wall Street and willing to work with it, even help it at times. This annoys some on the left. But do we really want a president who hates Wall Street, which is the engine house of our economy?
I don't think so.........................
alfredo
(60,075 posts)TrueDemVA
(250 posts)Promises to never cut or privatize Social Security while increasing benefits to our seniors. I want a president that wants to ensure ALL Americans have health insurance. I want a president that does not support free trade agreements that only benefit rich CEOs. I want a president that has stood on the right side of civil rights for their entire career, not just when polling suggests what's more popular.
I think you get the picture.
scottie55
(1,400 posts)He thanks you.
Did you see that Utah poll riversedge?
Sanders takes Utah by 11, HRC MOE.
Remember Mark Rich?
I am sure someone will bring it up.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Once the Republicans find out he's a 'socialist' how you think the polls hold up?
Or - more likely - they know and they would love to run against him!
zalinda
(5,621 posts)and all the work they have done to 'smear' her, you think they want to run against Bernie? We know the Republican party runs on hate, and boy do they hate her. And, there is a lot of people who are Independents and new Democrats who won't vote for her either, because they don't trust her. She has a HUGE trust issue and maybe be indicted before the GE, both great reasons not to vote for her.
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yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Are we to seriously believe Republicans prefer this Democrat - a self-described 'socialist democrat'?
When the Democratic Party prefers Hillary by millions of votes?
zalinda
(5,621 posts)But certainly not all Democrats do. Why do you think the primary voting is down? Why bother most people think, Hillary is going to be crowned no matter what, the DNC, the media and the big money want her to win and they continue to cheat and lie to make it happen. Rightwing propaganda? You mean the truth about Hillary? All I know about Hillary I learned from her very own words, try it, you might find it enlightening. Oh, not the words she is saying, NOW. But, the ones she was spouting before she knew it polled poorly, you know, her real agenda.
She won't do a damn thing for the poor. Haven't we suffered enough? Or should we suffer more so you can get your woman President, no matter how much damage she'll do? She couldn't wait to go after Qaddafi (We came, we saw, he died. (Gleeful laughter)). How is that working out?
DU keeps talking about how Republicans vote against their own self interest, well Hillary is against my own self interest. Can we afford someone who will fully or partially privatize social security, slow down building infrastructure, slow down energy independence and fast track lop sided trade policies? We get that and more from this woman, and none of it is in my interest. All this is in HER own words, not Republican talking points.
Maybe there is a reason that Bernie is attracting us old hippies and the younger generation, us oldies can remember how it used to be and the youngsters dare to dream what it could be.
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yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)has been the notion that you can say absolutely anything about Hillary and it is accepted as fact!
Couple this with the rightwing strategy of repeating the innuendo and speculation over and over and over until it is perceived as "truth."
I won't dispute your unfounded assertions for the millionth time - it is pointless. The next ten commenters will just repeat them!
As I remember it, us old hippies became a lot more skeptical when it came to outlandish promises from politicians.
How it used to be - Kennedy/Johnson drafts and Viet Nam - Nixon, Reagan, Bush. Which dream are you daring?
zalinda
(5,621 posts)when it comes out of her own mouth, on an unedited video? There are lots of them. She apparently thinks that all Democrats will believe every word that comes out of her mouth NOW. So was she lying then, or is she lying now?
You forgot your beloved Clinton in that mix of Presidents. So you are saying that Hillary is of the likes of Nixon, Reagan and Bush? Oh, I agree.
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yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)I assumed you were talking 1960's and real hippies.
Sorry.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)you forgot Clinton on the list, and of course Carter. At least under Kennedy/Johnson and Nixon jobs were plentiful and fewer people lived in poverty or were homeless.
But of course a Clinton supporter wouldn't remember that little bit, if they can overlook all that she has done to this country in the past 25 years.
The Clintons changed a lot of things and not for the better. But they got theirs, and the 99% got screwed.
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yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Remarkable!
Wouldn't being president help restrict her obvious superpowers? She does all this as First Lady, junior senator, Secretary of State - more power than any president? Astounding!
I don't associate "old hippies" with Carter and Clinton. Johnson, yes. Nixon, yes.
You were referencing better days. For who?
I can't even remember the '70's, and '80's was rehab. Better for who?
zalinda
(5,621 posts)I was much better off in the 70's and 80's, it was easy to find a job, even with the stigma of being a woman. My sister lives in Arkansas, and it's still as backward as the Clinton's found it and left it, maybe worse.
Hillary supporters can't say she is qualified because of her past jobs, but can't fault her for her past deeds. It cuts both ways.
She's old enough to remember Vietnam, so she knows what a quagmire that was. What was her excuse for Iraq and especially Libya? We gave them their freedom? Sharia Law and woman reduced to less than a person? She only deals with the people in power, and damns any person who has none. Ask the people in Haiti how the Clintons have helped them. They built a multi-million dollar resort and hotel. The poor people who lost their homes, are still without homes, but they got used for publicity for the Clinton Foundation to collect more money. These people couldn't even get the jobs at the resort, the help got imported in.
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yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Under Nixon and Ford? Viet Nam to start. Wage and price freezes. Watergate. The pardon. "Whip Inflation Now!"
Carter? Gas lines, OPEC, the Shah, hostages.
Reagan? Bush? Boom times?
I honeymooned in Eureka Springs and rafted down the Whitewater - while Bill Clinton was in office. It was beautiful! (we lived in Tulsa)
zalinda
(5,621 posts)but the schools are crap. Those kids that when to school during Clinton's tenure, can barely read or write, my sister deals with them every day.
Never had a gas line with Carter.
The rest of the stuff pales in comparison with what the Clintons achieved in the White House like NAFTA and repeal of Glass-Segal to name a few. Those things and others practically brought the whole country down. Yeah, Reagan may have started it, Bush I continued it, Clinton made it worse, and Bush II drove it home.
Clinton drove the entire Democratic party rightward, lock, stock and barrel. There are enough old time Republicans in the Democratic party to make Nixon feel welcome.
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handmade34
(22,756 posts)All in it together
(275 posts)But knowing what I do about her, it will not be with any pride. And, I hate letting the Democratic Party get away with all these shenanigans they've done to get her nominated.
She will have to be watched very carefully if she's the president. And that's hard (re-secret trade deals, Republican nominees for advisors, not supporting progressive ideas and people) etc What a shame that so many people chose her.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)She'd have us in another war within a year, if she becomes President. But, I don't think she'll win the GE, too many anti establishment voters.
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handmade34
(22,756 posts)I love Bernie... he is my Senator (former representative) and I don't want to lose him... I proudly voted for Hillary Clinton in Vermont's primaries knowing it wasn't going to make much difference
the thing is, they are not as different as many insist on believing... either will make a fine President... I just think Hillary would be better right now
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Go Hillary!
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)May there be LOTS of voters in WI who feel exactly as you do!
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