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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:19 PM Sep 2012

Wisconsin: Walker tries to ban protest signs, 200 show up to protest with signs

If you've not been following this story, Scott Walker and his henchmen have been trying to limit free speech, arresting anyone in the capitol who brings a sign or wears a T-shirt with a message. Eight arrests were made earlier in the week.

So what happens?


http://www.bluecheddar.net/?p=23422


Thanks to Chief Erwin and his saber rattling, more than two hundred sign-wielding singers showed up today to sing in the People’s House.




State Rep. Chris Taylor showed up and told us that she met with Chief Erwin and someone from the Department of Administration this morning. After they refused to give her specific information on what behavior is and isn’t acceptable in the Capitol building, they walked out of the meeting.

Rep. Peter Barca today posted a letter Rep. Taylor sent to Chief Erwin after the meeting regarding her still-unanswered questions:

When I asked about the specific conditions you were considering in determining whether an individual needed a permit or when making an arrest, you stated that these determinations were being made on a “case-by-case basis” and refused to articulate specific factors that would be considered. Instead, you and Ms. Coomer [from the DOA] recommended that anyone considering holding a sign call the Capitol police to inquire whether a permit would be needed. This gives me grave concern that the public is not being provided adequate notice about what conduct you are prohibiting and under what specific legal authority you are acting. Further, this subjective manner of making permitting and arrest determinations can easily lead to abuse, with the result being that constitutionally protected political speech is being improperly silenced.


Rep. Taylor also expressed gratitude that there are still courts that will act to protect citizens’ freedom of speech. She held up a copy of this week’s court ruling by Dane County Judge Frank Remington stating that § Adm. 2.07(2), prohibiting displays (under which the recent citations were issued), doesn’t apply to handheld signs, but rather only to freestanding exhibits.

The atmosphere today was boisterous and jovial—it’s always great to see so many of our friends gathered together in the People’s House. But there was also a serious side to our signs and our singing and our presence. We highly value our right to free speech, and we’re willing to defend it when it’s threatened. The Capitol police have a duty to uphold the law, the law that guarantees that “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, to consult for the common good, to petition the government, or any department thereof, shall never be abridged.”

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Wisconsin: Walker tries to ban protest signs, 200 show up to protest with signs (Original Post) Scuba Sep 2012 OP
K&R patrice Sep 2012 #1
Am glad there are brave people to stand up for the rights. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #2
I agree - I believe that dictating that we live according to the religious beliefs of others socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #3
yes indeed. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #7
money = speech; written word, not so much tk2kewl Sep 2012 #4
Also somewhere on the blog, bluecheddar Lifelong Protester Sep 2012 #5
good one! tk2kewl Sep 2012 #9
I know, right? Patiod Sep 2012 #6
I love these 200 folks with their signs. Brave and courages. midnight Sep 2012 #8
I asked police officers that day Lefta Dissenter Sep 2012 #10
And we love you for it!!!!!!! Scuba Sep 2012 #11
That's only because Lefta Dissenter Sep 2012 #12
LOL Scuba Sep 2012 #13
Today Lefta Dissenter Sep 2012 #14
Great idea. Please post after you're released so we know what happened. Scuba Sep 2012 #15
Shit hitting the fan. Lefta Dissenter Sep 2012 #16
This is outrageous! These are police state tactics!! You & the others have the right to sue/lawsuit hue Sep 2012 #17
more... hue Sep 2012 #18
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. Am glad there are brave people to stand up for the rights.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:34 PM
Sep 2012

The people of WI show us all the way forward. I know is it such a simple thing but needs to be done. If they win the right to take this right away what will right will be taken away tommorrow. This is becoming Russia.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
3. I agree - I believe that dictating that we live according to the religious beliefs of others
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:56 PM
Sep 2012

is dictatorial.

We live in a Democracy not a dictatorship.

What happened to freedom of personal choice.

I don't begrudge others for living as they see fit and I
don't expect others to impose their personal beliefs on my life.

The conservative right is out of control.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
5. Also somewhere on the blog, bluecheddar
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:10 PM
Sep 2012

people joining the people's sing-a-long were asked to hold up dollar bills, since evidently money DOES equal speech in the minds of the right wingers.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
10. I asked police officers that day
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

if I would be arrested for holding a sign and singing, and they couldn't answer my question. This was after the cops had confiscated my sign the previous day, and warned me face-to-face that if I held a sign in the Capitol again, I would be arrested.

So I held my sign and sang.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
14. Today
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

I'm going to call the Cap Police when I get there, as recommended by Chief Erwin and DOA. I'm going to ask ahead of time if I'll be arrested for carrying a sign. My sign will be a small whiteboard on which I'll write their response to my question.

(608) 266-8797, in case anyone else is headed there, sign in tow.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
15. Great idea. Please post after you're released so we know what happened.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:22 AM
Sep 2012

Hopefully they won't keep you locked up more than a decade or so, your henious crime notwithstanding.

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