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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:00 PM Oct 2012

WI Capitol Police Abridging Citizens Rights to Free Speech, 8 Arrested for Holding Signs

State Representative asks for info. about what basis and conduct are people being arrested for, but women at what appears to be office for capital police doesn't know this information... Very bizarre..

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WI Capitol Police Abridging Citizens Rights to Free Speech, 8 Arrested for Holding Signs (Original Post) midnight Oct 2012 OP
sadly, Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #1
This is so bizarre... Anyone know what these people representatives are doing about this? midnight Oct 2012 #2
Maybe DOA Sec. Huebsch and chief of police re-thinking hard-line strategy.. midnight Oct 2012 #3
Three more citations for today Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #4
Here's an update Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #5
Are there any attorney's looking into the constitutionality of these tickets? midnight Oct 2012 #6
Yes Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #7
Will this civil suit against the state be because of frightening the age of a five year old or midnight Oct 2012 #8
Another update Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #9
Thank you so much for keeping me informed... This is really very concerning and I hope that midnight Oct 2012 #10
That's precisely the message Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #11
Good.... And that is not a message that should scare anyone... Let us know how the court responds... midnight Oct 2012 #12
First Amendment is my Permit Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #13
Touche! midnight Oct 2012 #14

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
1. sadly,
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:31 AM
Oct 2012

We're up to 57 citations for the month of September, just for holding a sign or banner, leading a song, or jumping in on a spontaneous chant in the rotunda.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
2. This is so bizarre... Anyone know what these people representatives are doing about this?
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:10 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone know the law they broke and if that trumps free speech?

midnight

(26,624 posts)
3. Maybe DOA Sec. Huebsch and chief of police re-thinking hard-line strategy..
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012

and the chief http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/crime_and_courts/blog/capitol-police-chief-s-

"Let me say this clearly," writes DOA Secretary Huebsch in a letter to state Rep. Chris Taylor, an outspoken critic of the crackdown, "while I have a hand in setting the policy, I do not make the enforcement decisions for the Capitol Police or Chief Erwin, yet I support their efforts."

But observers say it's difficult to imagine that the new police chief could embark on a course that has revived a moribund protest movement and exposes the state to litigation without some kind of marching orders.

Lester Pines, a Madison attorney who has represented many Democratic interests and who is representing Books, says the recent overture to Barwick is a sign that the administration is rethinking its hard-line strategy.

"What I think is that the governor, through his appointee at DOA, Mike Huebsch, probably realized that this crackdown that they decided to do was foolish," he says. "And they're kind of trying to wind their way out of it. There are some people at the Capitol who have sort of gone overboard with their behavior. What's happened with this crackdown, they're starting to cause more problems than they're solving. They don't want to give citations to all these singers."



Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/blog/capitol-police-chief-s-crackdown-on-protesters-appears-to-be/article_c12fedcc-0741-11e2-850e-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz290XU5Jg9

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
4. Three more citations for today
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:21 AM
Oct 2012

I'm not sure what our total is up to now - maybe 62 or so? The chief is not letting up.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
7. Yes
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:33 PM
Oct 2012

National Lawyers Guild is helping to coordinate representation for the tickets, and there will be at least one civil suit against the state. Today a young man - not one of the "regulars" - was arrested for protesting against the new wolf hunt season, which started today.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
8. Will this civil suit against the state be because of frightening the age of a five year old or
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

whatever standard the new chief of the capital is using to measure the potential for danger to happen to others who might be offended by signs and language used via singing?

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
9. Another update
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:40 AM
Oct 2012

Tomorrow at 10:00 am, ten of our friends will be making their initial appearances in court for a total of 24 of the citations that have been issued.

edited to add that there are new citations being issued virtually every day, though the pace has slowed.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
10. Thank you so much for keeping me informed... This is really very concerning and I hope that
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 06:21 PM
Oct 2012

there is a strong message that free speech doesn't require permission.

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