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undeterred

(34,658 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 08:07 PM Oct 2012

Hunters: 4 wolves killed in Wisconsin in 24 hours

Hunters shot and killed at least four wolves in the opening 24 hours of Wisconsin’s first organized wolf hunt, the state Department of Natural Resources said Tuesday.

The first reported killing — a male — took place at 7:15 a.m. Monday in Rusk County, according to the DNR website. Another hunter in Vilas County took a female at 8:30 a.m. A third hunter killed a female at 4:30 p.m. in Iron County and a fourth killed a male at 6:15 p.m. in Eau Claire County.

The hunt opened Monday morning but hunters aren’t required to report kills for 24 hours. As of mid-afternoon Monday the DNR hadn’t received any kill reports.

The hunt is scheduled to end Feb. 28, but it could close sooner; the DNR has set a statewide limit of 116 wolves with zone-specific limits. As of Tuesday morning, hunters could still kill 31 wolves in the far northwest, 19 in the far northeast, 17 in the mid-northwest, 22 in the central, five in the mid-northeast and 18 in the south.

The DNR awarded 1,160 wolf licenses through a computerized lottery, although little more than half of the winners had purchased one by Monday morning. Wildlife officials estimate as many as 850 wolves roam Wisconsin and 3,000 more live in Minnesota. Farmers have complained for years about wolf attacks on livestock.

http://www.fdlreporter.com/viewart/20121016/FON0101/310160325/Hunters-4-wolves-killed-Wisconsin-24-hours?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Picture at link. I can't imagine killing one of these beautiful animals.

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Botany

(70,589 posts)
1. Why?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 08:11 PM
Oct 2012

Wisconsin has a major deer over population problem.

Find a wolf's den or area where his or her pack tend to stay and have a high
powered rifle w/ a scope and you to can kill a wolf.


BTW I hunt too.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
4. Hunting for sport is STUPID
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

When did you ever hear of a place overrun with just one species of animal that WASN'T Man? Ri-fucking-dickulous.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. It's a matter of point of view...wolf population in Wisconsin is growing pretty fast.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 09:02 PM
Oct 2012

When I moved back to Wisconsin in 1989 the wolf population was between 20 and 30. It's now somewhere around 800.

The population is growing by about 100 individuals per year, and the DNR lists 55 (of 77) counties with confirmed or 'probable' sightings.

There are no cases of wolf attacks on humans but, a handful of wolves have been shot because of suspect behavior around people. There are now about 30 wolf deaths per year resulting from wolves being hit by vehicles.

The growing Wisconsin wolf population is leading to increased presence of wolves in agricultural areas, and a marked increase in incidents of wolf depredation on domestic animals. The state paid a record $203,943 in wolf damage claims in 2010, up from $91,328 in 2009 and $134,752 in 2008.






sybylla

(8,526 posts)
10. You're going to find few hunters out for wolves merely for sport.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:51 PM
Oct 2012

This isn't Alaska.

Many of these hunters have suffered predations including both pets and farm animals. Many are fearful of what will happen when wolves take over their neighborhood. No one in WI voted for the return of wolves. It just happened (thank you Minnesota, we're told). No education effort has been made to help people understand what having wolves in their neighborhood means - not that anyone who realizes they or their children face a risk of one day staring down a pack of wolves will believe it is anything but dangerous.

Many feel (rightly or wrongly) that the growing wolf population has been forced on them by people (in southern urban communities) who will never have to live with any of those consequences - benign or not.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
11. "No one in WI voted for the return of wolves. It just happened (thank you Minnesota, we're told)."
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:00 PM
Oct 2012

Please tell me this is a joke.

If you were serious, with all due respect, the wolves didn't vote for the humans either.




sybylla

(8,526 posts)
13. Wisconsin was wolf-free until about 15 years ago. Whatever your feelings, that is a fact.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:36 PM
Oct 2012

The WDNR has claimed they have had no role in the reintroduction of wolves, that the wolves have come here from Minnesota, who reintroduced the wolf in their wild areas in the late 80's, IIRC.

I don't see how that's a joke.

And, until Walker and the GOP destroyed it, we had in this state something called the Conservation Congress, which met all across the state each spring to talk to citizens about our environmental and wildlife management policies. And, as with a constitutional congress, attendees were able to participate in decision making. It's actually how we got mourning dove hunting in this state.

So, no, the people didn't get to have a say in reintroduction of wolves. Because of that, there hasn't been any effort at education of the general public as the matter never came up before the conservation congress in any serious discussion.

In the grand scheme of things, it may seem stupid to you to allow the citizens of the state to have some influence on the policies of environmental regulation, conservation and wildlife management, it seems to me and an awful lot of people in this state to be a very important thing.

GOP legislators revoked our say. GOP legislators rammed through the wolf hunt legislatively. Walker and the GOP have put in place a Deer Czar who will work with the GOP DNR secretary to put in place regulations that will effectively privatize our wild deer herd.

Perhaps with the GOP in charge, you're starting to see that not having a say is a problem.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
14. Okay, I'm really not meaning to be snarky but
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:45 AM
Oct 2012

you do realize that the wolf was native to your area until they were brutally wiped out of existence by...say it with me...MAN. I'm sorry the people running your state are noodle heads but I really find the idea of having to ask people if its okay to redress a wrong against an intelligent beast who owe their demise to RANCHERS silly. They brought non-native animals into an ecosystem then killed off the native fauna because the wolves killed their product.

Wolves are shy, they don't walk down the middle of main street looking to kill people. People are insane...there is an infinitesimal chance that a wolf may kill a person ergo we kill the VERY FEW we have?? If that is the case, I propose we start killing people off...you never know when they're going to turn on other people.

My originally point stands...hunting for sport is stupid. If you're not hunting to feed, you're hunting for sport.

Edited to add: two minor points; here in suburban NYC we have a problem with rabid coyotes which in our area are actually coywolves as their a hybrid coyote/eastern wolf. Yes, they've killed pets and attacked children. Just like with my friends in the canyons of southern california, we learned NOT to leave our pets unattended. Once the local press made this point people got smart. Secondly if people are so worried about the wolf...let me remind you that they were nearly extinct very recently...then why isnt an effort being made to relocate them instead of killing them. Man's answer to everything...got a problem with something/someone??? Kill it!!!

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. There were estimated to be between 800 and 900 wolves in Wisconsin in 2010.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:16 AM
Oct 2012

By comparison the WI deer population has fluctuated around 1.5 million over the past decade and about 1 million deer permits of all kinds are sold.



sybylla

(8,526 posts)
9. Because they were awarded doesn't mean they will be "filled."
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:29 PM
Oct 2012

The DNR always issues far more licenses/tags than they hope will be filled because only a certain percentage of hunters will have success. As you read in the article, if they get close to the target number of registered kills, they will shut down the season - which is something different than they do for other seasons.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
12. The issue has also been raised of using dogs to hunt wolves
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:22 PM
Oct 2012

or using traps to catch wolves. Fortunately neither of these was implemented. A trap for wolves would easily trap a dog.

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