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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:09 AM Feb 2013

Wisconsin: State Rep Chris Taylor rips the mining bill and the Republicans clear the gallery.

Democratic favorite Chris Taylor says kindergartners could have written a better bill, itemizing many things wrong with the bill and describing damage the mine will do to our environment. Chris also rips the Republican refusal to offer any opportunity for their constituents to be heard on the bill.

The Republicans don't like being called on their misdeeds, so order the gallery cleared.



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Wisconsin: State Rep Chris Taylor rips the mining bill and the Republicans clear the gallery. (Original Post) Scuba Feb 2013 OP
Thanks Scuba... ewagner Feb 2013 #1
Munchkin HelenWheels Feb 2013 #2
Gary Bies nt snacker Feb 2013 #6
Who's clapping? HelenWheels Feb 2013 #3
The gallery is applauding Taylor. Scuba Feb 2013 #4
wow blue_heron Feb 2013 #5
Supreme Court Big Tent Feb 2013 #7
Don't believe the mining company P.R. mojowork_n Feb 2013 #8

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
1. Thanks Scuba...
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:27 AM
Feb 2013

I read about this but seeing it is a much more dramatic way of seeing the Repubs in action...

First time I've seen Chris Taylor speak...she is DYNO-MITE!!!

blue_heron

(223 posts)
5. wow
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:14 PM
Feb 2013

she is headed for greatness! love to see a passionate well-spoken advocate for the people! Not even from her own district, but for the citizens affected in the northern part of the state.

Big Tent

(85 posts)
7. Supreme Court
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:17 AM
Feb 2013

Honestly I would not mind a mine as long as the treaty obligations are met, we have some decent environment regulation and the mining companies are liable for damages. I remember last session after the mining bill was voted down in the senate and the mining company said they were done with Wisconsin. Mining companies have places to mine all over the world and when they mine they want zero liability. If people are concerned about the constitutionality of mining legislation then its all the more important to get Pat Roggensack off the bench.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
8. Don't believe the mining company P.R.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:45 PM
Feb 2013

There's no way to have the cake and eat it, too. The public noise coming from the mining company and the Republicans about 'maintaining environmental regulation and oversight' doesn't square with the known facts.

If built, this would be the largest open pit mine in the world.

Bigger than any of these:

http://www.losapos.com/openpitmines



It would be located between wetlands that have been referred to as 'the Everglades of Lake Superior' and the Lake.

Billions of tons of sulfide-rich waste overburden are located above the low-quality taconite "ore body."

The whole area is one big bowl, or basin.

The worst case scenario would be turning that big bowl into a giant vat of battery acid. (A "closed loop liquids system," as it's referred to by this very pro-business blogger.)

http://johntorinus.com/general-blog/business-and-government/closing-of-mining-office-doesnt-figure/

GTAC takes itself out of the dialogue. That is compounded by its failure to put forward a business plan that gives specifics on how it will extract the taconite while protecting the environment. Only generalties have been offered by the company.


That worst-case scenario would be really bad for the Lake Superior Chippewa tribe members, local farmers, any other possible (not just recreational) use for the land, and the last clean Great Lake.

...Plus, if you really look at the poor quality of the taconite, the fluctuations in prices for iron ore and the mining company's lack of specifics, it's led some people to speculate that this mining bill isn't about taconite or iron ore mining at all. It's only a bait-and-switch distraction, a way to float the promise of "thousands of jobs" in order to deregulate legal oversight of mining in the state of Wisconsin. To make it easier (and cheaper) for other mining outfits to attack the water resources of this state with toxic chemicals, in sand fracking operations. That type of mining has become very profitable, but responsibility for environmental damage remains a potential liability.

More info here:

https://www.facebook.com/FracingInWisconsin/timeline?filter=3

http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2012/12/what-frack.html
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