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Related: About this forumAndrew Coyne: All too plausible to think the Conservatives are involved in the robocall scandal
When the National Post is slamming the Conservative Party you know they've screwed up:
Here is a list of some of the things we do not know about the Robocon scandal (for those just joining us, the use of live or automated robocalls to harass or deceive con voters in certain ridings during the last election). We do not know whether the calls were made by members of the Conservative party. We do not know whether any Conservative authorized them, or even knew about them. We do not know whether anyone was prevented from voting, or had their vote changed, as a result, nor do we know whether the results of any riding were affected.
But my God, what we know is disturbing enough. There were not a few calls: there were thousands. They did not occur in one or two ridings: there were at least 18 of them, scattered across the country. In all but one the race was viewed as being between a Conservative and a Liberal, and in every one the calls were made to Liberal supporters. (The NDP now claims to have found nine ridings in which its own supporters received similar calls. These remain to be verified.) In some cases voters were given false information on where to vote by someone pretending to represent Elections Canada. In others, they were annoyed or insulted by calls purporting to come from the Liberal party.
There isnt any doubt that this was election fraud; whoever did it, if caught, is almost certainly facing jail time. In the particular case of the riding of Guelph, Ont., as reported by Postmedias Stephen Maher and Glen McGregor, Elections Canada investigators have traced the calls to an Edmonton-based voice-broadcast company, RackNine, that has done work for a number of Conservative politicians, including Stephen Harper though the calls were apparently made through it rather than by it. Elections Canada believes it knows the identity of the caller. One agency email obtained by Postmedia refers to Conservative campaign office communications with electors. Another warns: This one is far more serious. They have actually disrupted the voting process.
So, no, we do not know for a fact that the calls came from anyone acting on the authority of the Conservative party. But, well, lets say it fits a pattern if not of outright lawbreaking then certainly of close-to-the-wind tactics and ends-justify-the-means ethics. The in and out affair may not have been the scandal many, including Elections Canada, thought it was, but it hardly spoke of a robust commitment to honesty and fair play. The deceptive calls to voters in Irwin Cotlers riding of Mount Royal are a still closer precedent. It is not implausible that somebody connected with the party would have taken their cues as to what was considered appropriate behaviour, and run with it.
But my God, what we know is disturbing enough. There were not a few calls: there were thousands. They did not occur in one or two ridings: there were at least 18 of them, scattered across the country. In all but one the race was viewed as being between a Conservative and a Liberal, and in every one the calls were made to Liberal supporters. (The NDP now claims to have found nine ridings in which its own supporters received similar calls. These remain to be verified.) In some cases voters were given false information on where to vote by someone pretending to represent Elections Canada. In others, they were annoyed or insulted by calls purporting to come from the Liberal party.
There isnt any doubt that this was election fraud; whoever did it, if caught, is almost certainly facing jail time. In the particular case of the riding of Guelph, Ont., as reported by Postmedias Stephen Maher and Glen McGregor, Elections Canada investigators have traced the calls to an Edmonton-based voice-broadcast company, RackNine, that has done work for a number of Conservative politicians, including Stephen Harper though the calls were apparently made through it rather than by it. Elections Canada believes it knows the identity of the caller. One agency email obtained by Postmedia refers to Conservative campaign office communications with electors. Another warns: This one is far more serious. They have actually disrupted the voting process.
So, no, we do not know for a fact that the calls came from anyone acting on the authority of the Conservative party. But, well, lets say it fits a pattern if not of outright lawbreaking then certainly of close-to-the-wind tactics and ends-justify-the-means ethics. The in and out affair may not have been the scandal many, including Elections Canada, thought it was, but it hardly spoke of a robust commitment to honesty and fair play. The deceptive calls to voters in Irwin Cotlers riding of Mount Royal are a still closer precedent. It is not implausible that somebody connected with the party would have taken their cues as to what was considered appropriate behaviour, and run with it.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/24/andrew-coyne-all-to-plausible-to-think-the-conservatives-are-involved-in-the-robocall-scandal/
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Andrew Coyne: All too plausible to think the Conservatives are involved in the robocall scandal (Original Post)
Posteritatis
Feb 2012
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(1,484 posts)1. What is a "riding"?
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)2. An electoral district. (nt)
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(1,484 posts)4. Thank you for educating me
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(9,223 posts)3. Riding (country subdivision)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_(politics)
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(1,484 posts)5. Many thanks for your help
Shame on me for not having faith that I could find it for myself if I had tried to look it up.