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fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 07:03 PM Jul 2012

Leaked Letter From David Cameron To British Armed Forces

Dear Serving Soldier,
I appreciate that you may be a bit busy at the moment, fighting a pointless war in Afghanistan and looking forward to a summer holiday with your family, but just before I give 20,000 of you the sack would you mind awfully helping out at a small sporting event we are holding in London, later on this month. You see, I have just given £475,000,000 to a private company called G4S, who were supposed to be handling security arrangements for the London 2012 Olympics, but they appear to have trousered the cash without actually providing an adequate service. However, I have managed to wangle an old warehouse for you to kip down in and some army rations left over from WW2, not ideal I know, but hey you should be used to lack of equipment and facilities by now.

Gotta keep the costs down and all that. LOL.

Many thanks,

David Cameron.

PS Theresa May will sort out the details as I’m off to a sun-kissed beach for 4 weeks. OK, yah!
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Leaked Letter From David Cameron To British Armed Forces (Original Post) fedsron2us Jul 2012 OP
What suprises me about this.... T_i_B Jul 2012 #1
It's not exactly the first time... oldironside Jul 2012 #2
I really do hope that somebody queries the G4S invoice. T_i_B Jul 2012 #3
What is amazing fedsron2us Jul 2012 #8
I really hope that the UK Government looks at how it does procurement T_i_B Jul 2012 #9
I am afraid it is way more corrupt than innocent civil servants being duped fedsron2us Jul 2012 #11
What's the betting they change it again? non sociopath skin Jul 2012 #4
They'll probably just modify the name they have. oldironside Jul 2012 #5
Stolen and shared... truebrit71 Jul 2012 #6
Feel free. I stole it myself. fedsron2us Jul 2012 #7
While G4S are doubtless greedy and incompetent there area a few question LOCOG need to answer here fedsron2us Jul 2012 #10
G4S are not the only firm with their snouts in the trough T_i_B Jul 2012 #12
All too true LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #13

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
1. What suprises me about this....
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:02 AM
Jul 2012

.....is how many people are shocked when they find out that G4S are the old Group 4, who didn't exactly have the best reputation in the 1990's.

oldironside

(1,248 posts)
2. It's not exactly the first time...
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 05:38 AM
Jul 2012

... a private company has provided a bloody awful service and then changed its name to try to confuse everyone.

fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
8. What is amazing
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jul 2012

is that not only did they have a stonking nailed on profit of in the region of 10 grand per guard but they also had 34,000 applicants for the jobs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/34000-apply-for-2012-security-jobs-6295082.ht

It takes a certain kind of genius to screw it up so badly when everything is running in your favour.

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
9. I really hope that the UK Government looks at how it does procurement
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 06:06 AM
Jul 2012

There are a few firms besides G4S who've stitched the government up over the Olympics, and as we have seen from things like PFI, there is clearly something very wrong with the way that government deals with outside contractors.

Myself, I suspect that there are too many people doing these deals whose only experience of the private sector is reading about it in a book.

fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
11. I am afraid it is way more corrupt than innocent civil servants being duped
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jul 2012

by wicked private sector negotiators.

In fact many public sector contract negotiators are surprisingly tough and good at their jobs.

The problem is that they do not always sign off on the deals.

Many of the parties involved in that process go onto have 'relationships' with the winning bidder.

The non executive Directors of G4S make interesting reading including one ex Gas Regulator and one former Labour Home Secretary

Where public money meets private contracts the drains always smell.

non sociopath skin

(4,972 posts)
4. What's the betting they change it again?
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 11:15 AM
Jul 2012

I believe "Consignia" is out of copyright at the moment ....

The Skin

oldironside

(1,248 posts)
5. They'll probably just modify the name they have.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jul 2012

Group FS? GFSecurities? GFS? GFSecs? They'll need to pay a shed load of cash to some idiot consultant help them purify the brand, but renaming is a fail safe charm.



fedsron2us

(2,863 posts)
10. While G4S are doubtless greedy and incompetent there area a few question LOCOG need to answer here
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jul 2012

It appears that G4S were originally only asked to supply 2000 staff when the original contract was signed in 2010.

This was increased by 8000 when the security requirements were revised and second contract was signed in December 2011.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18840464

Given the inevitable concerns about security in the wake of the July 2005 London bombings you have to wonder why LOCOG left these contracts so late in the day and got their original estimates of the numbers of staff required so spectacularly wrong.

G4S shareholders might also like to ask why the company directors were so keen to sign up to a deal that they could not fulfill. Presumably they have not understood that a basic point of contract negotiation is to avoid writing bad business since it is nearly always worse than not winning the contract at all.

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
12. G4S are not the only firm with their snouts in the trough
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 04:15 AM
Jul 2012

In fact most of the private sector contracts awared in relation to the Olympics appear to have been total stitch-ups.

Hosting the Olympics is enough of a waste of public money as it is without letting suppliers run riot.

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