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pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:46 PM Mar 2013

I do not understand what is happening to the Liberal Democrats.

They had a chance to be a relevant player on the political stage when they joined the coalition government. As I understand it, without their support the Tories would not be able to govern. They wasted a great opportunity to make a difference and have ended up alienating their own members

. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/10/lib-dems-quit-over-secret-courts?CMP=twt_fd

They need to get rid of Clegg ASAP so they can gain some semblance of credibility before the next election or their future as a political party will be gone forever.

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T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
2. Would anyone else actually want to lead the Lib Dems at the moment?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:12 PM
Mar 2013

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Clegg has proved to be one of the most inept party leaders in British political history. However, if he goes could somebody else clean up the mess he's left behind? To be honest I don't see any senior Lib Dem who could make the party credible again.

The root of the many gripes that I have regarding the Lib Dems apply to much of UK politics, namely a tendency to see grabbing power for it's own sake as the main objective. It's certainly the main complaint I always had about New Labour.

The Lib Dems got themselves some power, but that in itself has not made them credible. In fact the concessions they made to get that power have caused them to lose credibility quite badly.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
5. I think they know they will have a problem in the next election so they will let him take the fall
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:42 PM
Mar 2013

next time around and not change leaders

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
3. What seems to happen to most British parties..
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:38 PM
Mar 2013

being dragged hopelessly to the Right and to utter folly by its leader.

First the Tories by Thatcher (all right, I would never have voted for them even in their postwar-consensus phase; but Thatcher turned them into something far uglier).

Then Labour by Tony Blair.

Then the LibDems by Clegg.


I once said on DU that if there was a one-member independent party, it would sooner or later be dragged hopelessly to the right by its leader (and Galloway seems to be doing his best to confirm this prediction!)



Thatcher and Blair, though poisonous, were clever politically, at least on the surface. Clegg is obviously out of his depth. Mind you, he'd be out of his depth in an inch of water! Even at the height of 'Cleggmania' in 2010, he managed to mess up the campaign strategy badly enough to lose seats instead of gaining them.

As regards getting rid of him, I certainly hope they do; but I think that anyone who is sufficient of a 'nutter' in Farron's own words to take over at this stage, would be in the same position as the lost traveller who, when he asked for directions to his destination, was told, 'If I were you, I wouldn't start from here!'



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