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T_i_B

(14,747 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:27 AM Sep 2015

If a Lib Dem conference takes place and no-one realises, did it really happen?

Seeing as that time of year when political parties have their conferences......

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2015/09/22/if-a-lib-dem-conference-takes-place-and-no-one-realises-did

Inside the conference centre, everything continues as it used to do in government and, to be fair, as it did before government. Lib Dems take things very seriously. Yesterday they debated unilateral nuclear disarmament (they voted against). Today it's housing and social care. In each case the debate takes place in a vacuum-sealed alternate political reality, where they have the slightest ability to decide such matters. This is a party with eight seats behaving as if it was leading negotiations at the UN. It’s not that they don't recognise their radically diminished status. It’s that the emotional reality hasn't sunk in. They're like someone still numb from a bereavement.

The ideal time for a proper Lib Dem flap would have been late 2014, when a new leader could have limited some of the damage and turned an eight-seat score card into a 20-seat one. But failing that, now might be a good time. This is a party which should be asking big questions. Those questions should include whether the Lib Dems are happy to accept the economic policy of parties they go into coalition with. They might also ask if they want to appeal to a broader electorate with policies like free school meals, or a narrower but uncommitted electorate by standing up for civil liberties and an egalitarian system of law.

Those questions aren't being asked. Instead there is a lot of talk of whether the British system can incorporate diverse politics and the various tactical or communication errors of coalition. These are good questions, but they are not the main ones.

Not that anyone knows. The conference centre seems entirely removed from the world outside. That's always the case at conference, but it is particularly the case at this one. The sad thing is one imagines that next year it'll be even worse. There'll be even fewer journalists and their deep debate about national security or solar energy will look even more cut-off from reality.
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If a Lib Dem conference takes place and no-one realises, did it really happen? (Original Post) T_i_B Sep 2015 OP
What is the sound of one Liberal Democrat hand clapping? non sociopath skin Sep 2015 #1
Let me put it this way.... T_i_B Sep 2015 #4
I think party conferences of all stripes are becoming less relevant and less well attended LeftishBrit Sep 2015 #2
Hate to say it but those I knew from hereabouts who went to the Labour Conference ... non sociopath skin Sep 2015 #3

T_i_B

(14,747 posts)
4. Let me put it this way....
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:34 AM
Sep 2015

...whilst there is an argument that Labour has changed direction too quickly, the Lib Dems are not moving anywhere near as quickly as they should away from their involvement in the coalition, which was a total disaster for their party.

LeftishBrit

(41,210 posts)
2. I think party conferences of all stripes are becoming less relevant and less well attended
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:52 AM
Sep 2015

It was pointed out recently that there are more subscribers to the Royal Society for Protection of Birds than to all political parties put together - I am not at all surprised.

And younger political activists tend to do more through social media and less through these sorts of formal conferences.

I have never attended any party conference of any political colour, and imagine they're mostly pretty boring.

non sociopath skin

(4,972 posts)
3. Hate to say it but those I knew from hereabouts who went to the Labour Conference ...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:46 AM
Sep 2015

... seemed more concerned about the booze and where they could get free scran, than about anything which went on in the Conference Hall.

On the other hand, I always thoroughly enjoyed being a delegate at NUT conference ... hopefully for the right reasons.

The Skin

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