United Kingdom
Related: About this forumBoris Johnson to campaign for Brexit in EU referendum
Boris Johnson has transformed the terms of the EU referendum debate by announcing that after a huge amount of heartache he is to throw his weight behind the campaign to take Britain out of the EU.
The London mayor announced on Sunday that he will campaign for a leave vote after concluding that David Camerons deal will not deliver the reformed EU he promised.
Speaking outside his home in north London, the mayor said his decision had been agonisingly difficult. But he added: I would like to see a new relationship based more on trade, on cooperation, with much less of this supranational element. So that is where Im coming from and that is why I have decided, after a huge amount of heartache, because the last thing I wanted was to go against David Cameron or the government, I dont think there is anything else I can do.
I will be advocating Vote Leave or whatever the team is called, I understand there are a lot of them because I want a better deal for the people of this country, to save them money and to take control. That is really what this is all about.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/21/boris-johnson-eu-referendum-campaign-for-brexit-david-cameron
Denzil_DC
(7,250 posts)If the vote is to leave, Cameron likely goes in short order, and Boris is there, buoyed by victory, like Sir Gawain astride the cursed Ragnelle, to claim his prize.
If the vote is to remain, he can tut in frustration from the sidelines as our uneasy relationship with the EU continues to fester, and bide his time until Cameron finally decides it's time for him to cut and run and go find a real job with some serious dosh behind it.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)What a load of bollocks, he was always wanting to leave, he just didn't want to muck up his leadership chances by playing his hand too soon.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,347 posts)but Osborne is firmly in that camp, May declared for it quickly, and that meant he'd be a minor player if he did too. So he's decided to risk being on the losing side, but the 'obvious leadership choice' (oh god, what an awful prospect) if they do happen to win.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)Then again so is Osborne as leader.
On the plus side Hilary Benn has ruled out sharing a platform with Cameron. We don't want to give the impression Cameron is a unifier who reaches beyond partisan interests. Like Boris and Gideon he's only interested in himself and his old schoolchums.
T_i_B
(14,743 posts)We already have 2 separate "leave" campaigns. I think it will be important for the "Stronger In" campaign to show the public that advantages of working together with others, even if that does mean sharing platforms with Tory fucktrumpets.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)It's just that Labour won't give Cameron any time. It will suit the in campaign to portray the sceptics as a bunch of chinless wonders more concerned with feathering their own nests and advancing their own careers.
Denzil_DC
(7,250 posts)Yes, I know I bang on about it, but Labour, already veering near the rocks through its own uselessness, will find it even harder to recover in Scotland from the spectacle of being photographed on innumerable occasions gladhanding and yakking it up with Tories, and being perceived as sharing their whole agenda, during that particular Yes campaign than if it had ploughed its own unionist furrow.
Sturgeon's already made it clear she won't share a platform with Cameron (even in the unlikely event he'd envisage it). I have misgivings about her current idea of campaigning outside Scotland for the In crowd (not least because we've our own fish to fry and our own election to fight up here in the same period), but she's been clear that she wants to come at the positive arguments from a different angle to Cameron. Perversely, that could be a benefit, as they can speak to different constituencies. Diversity can be a strength.
The Better Together campaign was characterized (from within, at the highest level) as Project Fear - you'll lose your pensions, you'll never see your (furrin-born) kids again, armed frontier posts at Gretna, yadayadayada.
The other day, in the context of the Euro referendum, Neil MacKay, Editor of the Sunday Herald (the most decent paper we have hereabouts), encapsulated the pitfalls of that negative approach - from both Innies and Outies - by coming up with the hashtag #projectyoureallgoingtodie.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)The thought of Osborne or May as leader is no pleasanter than Boris.
Ugh!
non sociopath skin
(4,972 posts)Why does this man - and I pointedly refuse to call the asshole "Boris" - merit headlines in every major newspaper?
The Skin
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)And his bumbling, affable persona has fooled quite a few people.
T_i_B
(14,743 posts)There does seem to be an element of the British press looking after "one of their own" with both Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, who himself has more than his fair share of creepy cultists in the opinion pages of a few newspapers.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)Maybe the decline in newspaper circulation isn't such a bad thing after all.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)It was clear Gove was a liar when he said he was interested in improving education, not turning the clock back. Now Tusk is having to get involved. (Does anyone else have to do a double take every time they see Tusk's name? I keep reading Donald Trump.)
The package of reforms negotiated by David Cameron cannot be reversed by European judges, according to the EU Council president.
Donald Tusk told MEPs the deal was "legally binding and irreversible".
It comes after Justice Secretary Michael Gove told the BBC the European Court of Justice could throw out some measures without EU treaty change.
Both Downing Street and attorney general Jeremy Wright say the reforms cannot be reversed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35653155
Response to Bad Dog (Reply #11)
non sociopath skin This message was self-deleted by its author.
non sociopath skin
(4,972 posts)The Skin