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LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:02 PM Feb 2016

Boris Johnson to campaign for Brexit in EU referendum

Boris Johnson has transformed the terms of the EU referendum debate by announcing that “after a huge amount of heartache” he is to throw his weight behind the campaign to take Britain out of the EU.

The London mayor announced on Sunday that he will campaign for a leave vote after concluding that David Cameron’s deal will not deliver the reformed EU he promised.


Speaking outside his home in north London, the mayor said his decision had been “agonisingly difficult”. But he added: “I would like to see a new relationship based more on trade, on cooperation, with much less of this supranational element. So that is where I’m coming from and that is why I have decided, after a huge amount of heartache, because the last thing I wanted was to go against David Cameron or the government, I don’t think there is anything else I can do.

“I will be advocating Vote Leave – or whatever the team is called, I understand there are a lot of them – because I want a better deal for the people of this country, to save them money and to take control. That is really what this is all about.”



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/21/boris-johnson-eu-referendum-campaign-for-brexit-david-cameron

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Denzil_DC

(7,250 posts)
1. Doesn't seem like Boris has a lot to lose on this one.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

If the vote is to leave, Cameron likely goes in short order, and Boris is there, buoyed by victory, like Sir Gawain astride the cursed Ragnelle, to claim his prize.

If the vote is to remain, he can tut in frustration from the sidelines as our uneasy relationship with the EU continues to fester, and bide his time until Cameron finally decides it's time for him to cut and run and go find a real job with some serious dosh behind it.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
2. "A huge amount of heartache and agonisingly difficult"
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:27 AM
Feb 2016

What a load of bollocks, he was always wanting to leave, he just didn't want to muck up his leadership chances by playing his hand too soon.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,347 posts)
3. Or the heartache is caused by him thinking the vote will probably be to stay in the EU
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:53 AM
Feb 2016

but Osborne is firmly in that camp, May declared for it quickly, and that meant he'd be a minor player if he did too. So he's decided to risk being on the losing side, but the 'obvious leadership choice' (oh god, what an awful prospect) if they do happen to win.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
4. It is scary.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:24 AM
Feb 2016

Then again so is Osborne as leader.

On the plus side Hilary Benn has ruled out sharing a platform with Cameron. We don't want to give the impression Cameron is a unifier who reaches beyond partisan interests. Like Boris and Gideon he's only interested in himself and his old schoolchums.

T_i_B

(14,743 posts)
6. Are we going to end up with 2 "In" campaigns then?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

We already have 2 separate "leave" campaigns. I think it will be important for the "Stronger In" campaign to show the public that advantages of working together with others, even if that does mean sharing platforms with Tory fucktrumpets.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
7. I don't think so.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

It's just that Labour won't give Cameron any time. It will suit the in campaign to portray the sceptics as a bunch of chinless wonders more concerned with feathering their own nests and advancing their own careers.

Denzil_DC

(7,250 posts)
8. I think there were some hard lessons learned from the Scottish referendum.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:34 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, I know I bang on about it, but Labour, already veering near the rocks through its own uselessness, will find it even harder to recover in Scotland from the spectacle of being photographed on innumerable occasions gladhanding and yakking it up with Tories, and being perceived as sharing their whole agenda, during that particular Yes campaign than if it had ploughed its own unionist furrow.

Sturgeon's already made it clear she won't share a platform with Cameron (even in the unlikely event he'd envisage it). I have misgivings about her current idea of campaigning outside Scotland for the In crowd (not least because we've our own fish to fry and our own election to fight up here in the same period), but she's been clear that she wants to come at the positive arguments from a different angle to Cameron. Perversely, that could be a benefit, as they can speak to different constituencies. Diversity can be a strength.

The Better Together campaign was characterized (from within, at the highest level) as Project Fear - you'll lose your pensions, you'll never see your (furrin-born) kids again, armed frontier posts at Gretna, yadayadayada.

The other day, in the context of the Euro referendum, Neil MacKay, Editor of the Sunday Herald (the most decent paper we have hereabouts), encapsulated the pitfalls of that negative approach - from both Innies and Outies - by coming up with the hashtag #projectyoureallgoingtodie.

non sociopath skin

(4,972 posts)
9. The Ego Has Landed
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:27 AM
Feb 2016

Why does this man - and I pointedly refuse to call the asshole "Boris" - merit headlines in every major newspaper?

The Skin

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
10. Probably because he's one of the few politicians people have actually heard of.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:47 AM
Feb 2016

And his bumbling, affable persona has fooled quite a few people.

T_i_B

(14,743 posts)
12. I think the fact that he's Fleet Street commentariat helps
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

There does seem to be an element of the British press looking after "one of their own" with both Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, who himself has more than his fair share of creepy cultists in the opinion pages of a few newspapers.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
13. And his time on HIGNFY didn't do him any harm.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe the decline in newspaper circulation isn't such a bad thing after all.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
11. I see the lies and half truths have already started.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:31 AM
Feb 2016

It was clear Gove was a liar when he said he was interested in improving education, not turning the clock back. Now Tusk is having to get involved. (Does anyone else have to do a double take every time they see Tusk's name? I keep reading Donald Trump.)

The package of reforms negotiated by David Cameron cannot be reversed by European judges, according to the EU Council president.

Donald Tusk told MEPs the deal was "legally binding and irreversible".

It comes after Justice Secretary Michael Gove told the BBC the European Court of Justice could throw out some measures without EU treaty change.

Both Downing Street and attorney general Jeremy Wright say the reforms cannot be reversed.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35653155

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