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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:36 PM Mar 2014

Stick a fork in US - we're done.

Here's a secret they don't want you to know. Election Day doesn't really matter. Voting doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is $$$. Here we are, 7 months away from Election Day. It is a Sunday at noon and I already have 7 emails in my inbox pleading for money. Money for this candidate, money for that candidate, money for the Democratic Party, money for this PAC, money for that PAC. Apparently the only way our candidates can get elected is if we raise more money than they do. SEVEN MONTHS!

And no matter how much you donate:

And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more! yah.

So, my friends, stick a fork in us, we're done. The 1% and the corporations can outspend us no matter how much we give and they will. For Big Money politics is a great investment. You give $1 Mil and save $10 Mil on your taxes. You get together and spend $100 Mil and you get TPP or Keystone. I give $50 or $100 and since my only income is Social Security I get bupkis.

And where is the famous backlash? Against no unemployment. No Food Stamps. No Veterans Benefits. No pensions. Voter suppression. Crumbling infrastructure. Disappearing Middle Class.

Evidently, for the majority of people who actually go to the polls, this is what we, as a nation, want. We elect them - over and over again and they NEVER pay the price for screwing us over:

I learned our Government must be strong;
It's always right and never wrong;
Our leaders are the finest men
And we elect them again and again.

(Above lyrics from "Fortunate Son" - Creedence Clearwater Revival" and "What Did You Learn In School Today" - Pete Seeger)

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Stick a fork in US - we're done. (Original Post) Stonepounder Mar 2014 OP
You also might be a right wing troll looking to stir up your normal BS about MindMover Mar 2014 #1
ROFL! Stonepounder Mar 2014 #8
If the 99% vote, it won't matter what the 1% want! OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2014 #2
We're NOT done! Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #3
I can't say we are done yet but campaign fund raising is a problem. Autumn Mar 2014 #4
Finance all 10+ candidates? SaveTheMackerel Feb 2016 #12
Money, and the media that money buys are always with us. We are headed into French Revolution genwah Mar 2014 #5
I have no extra money to donate. djean111 Mar 2014 #6
I got sick of it several months ago and un subscribed to the doc03 Mar 2014 #7
Tell those that believe in a divine power to ask that power to materialize gold for them. WilliamTuckness Jun 2014 #9
The republican record? Carl anga Sep 2014 #10
Show Me Storyoflive12 Nov 2014 #11

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
1. You also might be a right wing troll looking to stir up your normal BS about
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:41 PM
Mar 2014

it is useless to give or support any candidate because all is lost ... yes, that is the RW meme and I called you out ...

So go sling your shit someplace else ... bye ....

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
8. ROFL!
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:42 PM
Mar 2014

Dude, I've been a Progressive for over 50 years. I helped register black voters in the 60's, got tear gassed for demonstrating against the Viet Nam war, have phonebanked, spent election days driving voters to and from the polls, and gone door-to-door. So you can take your bloody name calling and put it where the sun don't shine.

Am I pissed about Citizens United? You better believe I am. Am I pissed abut the corrupt corporate whores on the Supreme Court and in Congress? Yeah, I am. Am I pissed about Obama not learning from Bill Clinton and trying to push the TPP through behond closed doors? Hell yes.

Where in my post did I say I was going to sit out this election? I didn't. But I sure as Hell despair for my country when I see the same dip shits elected over and over again and turning around and screwing over the people who voted them into office knowing that their voters are so damn dumb that the'll reelect them again just because FOX tells them to.

So, I want to vent, I'll vent and you have the gall to call me a Right Wing Troll. Sheesch.

Autumn

(45,105 posts)
4. I can't say we are done yet but campaign fund raising is a problem.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:54 PM
Mar 2014

I would like to have public financing for politicians and do away with this other crap. That would cut down on the misinformation that they could afford to put all over radio and TV and give them time to do the work they are elected to do.

 

SaveTheMackerel

(37 posts)
12. Finance all 10+ candidates?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:34 AM
Feb 2016

If you offer to public finance elections, how do you decide who gets the financing when 10 people apply? If you only give it to the top 3 signature getters, then the corporate people will help them get the signatures. You will need their help once again, only this time it will be the tax payers footing the bill for the corporations.

genwah

(574 posts)
5. Money, and the media that money buys are always with us. We are headed into French Revolution
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:27 PM
Mar 2014

political territory, which I'm not in favor of.

You're pissed, and I get that. I'm pissed off, too. And I have no money. The Koch brothers, the Wall street barons, against the flood of begging e-mails I get from deserving candidates being outspent. That pisses me off big time. But I'm only me, with a car old enough to vote, and I can sleep in my car and volunteer. Putting boots on the ground is an amazingly cathartic experience, espeically when I'm in a pair of those boots. (Actually, sneakers I bought too cheaply.)

Yes, there's money, and broadcast money, and now, the Koch brothers are starting field offices to put their own boots on the ground. It's a losing game, but do you want to win, or do you want to fight? From a discussion I haven't published yet.

More importantly, WHO ARE YOU? Are you someone who is going to sit around the Generic-Progressive-Web-Based-Circle-Jerk about who we are supposed ro like or not like? Or are you someone who says, "Yeah, motherfucker, I'll put you in office, and you toe the line or you're gonna be so out of office, SO FAST that Fox "news" isn't going to find out how to hire you for two weeks!"


There's money, and there's boots on the ground. The French Revolutionaries had no money, no media support, just boots on the ground. I'd really rather not see that happen around here. So, I'm left with; "Who are you? Where are you? what races are coming up for you on November? Are there people you want to see in November having primaries, like, NOW?

What are you going to do, Stonepounder, to GOTV in November?
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. I have no extra money to donate.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 02:06 PM
Mar 2014

Yesterday Alan Grayson asked me for money because someone called him a boogersnot (or something similar).
Today Harry Reid asked me for money because Sarah Palin "berated" him.
And the elections are a ways off - the money part of politics is getting fucking ridiculous. What does it even buy?

doc03

(35,344 posts)
7. I got sick of it several months ago and un subscribed to the
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 02:25 PM
Mar 2014

e-mails. I was getting 15-20 every day from different Democratic leaning fund raisers. You donate to one and you go on the sucker list.

 

WilliamTuckness

(41 posts)
9. Tell those that believe in a divine power to ask that power to materialize gold for them.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:38 PM
Jun 2014

Or just tell them to ask magicians like Dan White and Criss Angel to materialize gold out of thin air for whoever wants your $.

Carl anga

(11 posts)
10. The republican record?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:35 PM
Sep 2014

let's spray out the republican's 14 disgraceful years record . flood the social media minute after minute with the record of these criminal minds!!!!

Storyoflive12

(1 post)
11. Show Me
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:19 PM
Nov 2014

Hey everyone, an old Yankee catcher once said.....it ain't over till it's over. Dan Cooke from San Antonio coined the phrase It ain't over till the fat lady sings. Show some cajoles.

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