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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:20 PM Aug 2015

10 Common Computer Myths You Need To Stop Believing

Posted for discussion, I am NOT vouching for the accuracy of this article!

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-common-computer-myths-you-need-to-stop-believing/

(heavily edited)

You Need to Defragment Your Drive Frequently

Viruses and Spyware are Slowing Down Your Computer

Paid “Cleaner” Software Improves Performance

You Don’t Need Antivirus Software

Turning Your Computer on and off Regularly Is Bad / Not Turning Your Computer off at Night Is Bad

Deleting Contents From Your Hard Drive Actually Erases Them / To Securely Erase Data, Use a Magnet

Macs are Better than PCs / Macs are Overpriced Junk

To Protect Yourself From Vulnerabilities, Use Firefox/Safari/Chrome/IE

More (Cores, RAM, etc.) Are Always Faster

Building Your Own PC Saves Money

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lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
1. I used to build my own machines when I used XP.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:31 PM
Aug 2015



Now it's not worth it.

And one other thing ... The "helpful" pop-ups usually aren't.
"Free Online Virus Scan" should be avoided like the plague.

Thanks for the OP.

-none

(1,884 posts)
2. I wouldn't vouch for the accuracy of this article either.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:36 PM
Aug 2015

The author doesn't understand all he "knows".
For instance, desk top computer are designed to be left on all the time. If you only turn your computer on when you want to use it, then turn it off when you are done, that is most likely why it is so sluggish and takes so long to boot up. It is trying to check and download/install updates, do virus scans, various scheduled house maintenance. And it is doing all this at the same time you are trying to do whatever it is you want to do.
Just leave it on and allow it to go to sleep when you are not using it, so your computer can do what it needs to do on its own scheduled time, and not yours.
The only time I turn my computers off, is when I am going to be away for a few days or more.

There are other questionable items at the link also.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
3. A couple are marginal.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 01:40 AM
Aug 2015
You Need to Defragment Your Drive Frequently
Depending on how you use it, you actually might need to defrag it fairly frequentlly. Even if you don't need to, doing so does no harm and takes very little time, so why not go ahead and do it?

Viruses and Spyware are Slowing Down Your Computer
They very well might be, even if you have anti-virus software in place. A periodic thorough scan using several scanning programs is not a bad idea.

Turning Your Computer on and off Regularly Is Bad
In can actually be overdone. That's why your computer has a "sleep" cycle. I turn my desktop on first thing in the morning, and off when I go to bed at night.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
4. My Windows 7 laptop became horribly fragmented.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 06:30 AM
Aug 2015

As the article points out, windows automatically defrags every week.

But it won't defrag if there's less than 15% free space.

Unless you go in and edit the defrag task and add the "-f" parameter to "force" it to defrag.

My drive was always 90% or more full, I was always downloading files, and only deleting enough old files to make room for the new files I wanted to download.

With "-f", it would defrag each week, then get slower as the week went on, because the drive became fragmented again.

For that and another reason, I decided to set it to defrag daily.

Here's the other reason:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/197162/ntfs-performance-and-large-volumes-of-files-and-directories

<snip>

1. A folder stores the index information (links to child files & child folder) in an index file. This file will get very large when you have a lot of children. Note that it doesn't distinguish between a child that's a folder and a child that's a file. The only difference really is the content of that child is either the child's folder index or the child's file data. Note: I am simplifying this somewhat but this gets the point across.

2. The index file will get fragmented. When it gets too fragmented, you will be unable to add files to that folder. This is because there is a limit on the # of fragments that's allowed. It's by design. I've confirmed it with Microsoft in a support incident call. So although the theoretical limit to the number of files that you can have in a folder is several billions, good luck when you start hitting tens of million of files as you will hit the fragmentation limitation first.

3. It's not all bad however. You can use the tool: contig.exe to defragment this index. It will not reduce the size of the index (which can reach up to several Gigs for tens of million of files) but you can reduce the # of fragments. Note: The Disk Defragment tool will NOT defrag the folder's index. It will defrag file data. Only the contig.exe tool will defrag the index. FYI: You can also use that to defrag an individual file's data.

4. If you DO defrag, don't wait until you hit the max # of fragment limit. I have a folder where I cannot defrag because I've waited until it's too late. My next test is to try to move some files out of that folder into another folder to see if I could defrag it then. If this fails, then what I would have to do is 1) create a new folder. 2) move a batch of files to the new folder. 3) defrag the new folder. repeat #2 & #3 until this is done and then 4) remove the old folder and rename the new folder to match the old.

<snip>


Ok, I didn't have millions of files in any folder, but I realized that defrag doesn't defrag the indexes, so you want to avoid having them become fragmented. If an index is not fragmented, it only takes one seek to search it, but if it's in 5 fragments, it takes 5 seeks to search it, making your computer 5 times slower. So if your drive tends to get full like mine, it's best to defrag daily to avoid creating fragmented indexes.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
5. Hard drives work much better if you don't pack them full.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 06:38 AM
Aug 2015

Why keep old unneeded files? If you have that many files you need a bigger hard drive. Or get a humongous external drive and put all your data files on it.
Just as a routine I keep no data files at all on my C: drive.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
6. That's irrelevant, the article is wrong.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:06 AM
Aug 2015

Of course, if you don't store anything on your drive, then it won't get fragmented, but a lot of us do.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
7. The more you write and delete files from your drive the more fragmented it gets.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:23 AM
Aug 2015

All I have on my C: drive is the OS and installed programs. Any documents, videos, pictures, etc. are kept elsewhere.
The less clutter you keep on your primary drive the faster it will boot. My laptop with two 1 Tb drives in it, the primary C: drive is a 500 Gb partition, boots in just under 30 seconds from Power On to Desktop with everything loaded, wifi connected and ready to roll.
I use a 120 Gb SSD as my boot drive on my primary computer and it still has 70+Gb of free space even with about 65 programs installed. All my data files are on two 2 Tb drives that are partitioned into various categories.
I also have all my data backed up to at least two external sources.

Windows also thinks Temporary means forever so it never empties out any of the Temp folders. someone once brought in a computer that was bogged down and taking forever to load. There was 400 Mb of free space on a 120 Gb drive. 65,000 files in the Temp folder dating back about 10 years and using 25+Gb of space. By the time I cleaned out all the Temp folders and tweaked the settings a little, she had 35 Gb free space on the drive and it booted up in about 45 seconds instead of 5 minutes.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
8. You just pointed out two other problems with the article.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:04 AM
Aug 2015

The article listed these as "myths":

Paid “Cleaner” Software Improves Performance
...
More (Cores, RAM, etc.) Are Always Faster


The "Cleaner" programs clean out all those temporary files and other junk you had to do manually - they do improve performance.

And you pointed out that more drives make your laptop faster. Resource utilitization generally follows Little's Law, and a good rule of thumb is to keep utilization below 50-80%. As bloatware gets bigger, as music and video formats get higher resolution, etc, disk and memory requirements increase.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
9. I try to avoid bloatware applications.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:18 AM
Aug 2015

Acrobat Reader is 75 Mb download, not counting the crap they want to download with it. Foxit Reader does everything it does and is a 15 Mb install file.
either VLC or MPC-Home Cinema play all media files with half the footprint of Windows Media Player and neither activate the Windows Media Player Network Service which takes your cpu to905 usage and eats up all your free RAM.
Ibelieve in lean and mean software. Any time I have a choice between two application that do the same thing and one is much smaller-that's the one I use.
When I just want to listen to audio I use TrayPlay-a 37 Kb .exe that sits in your system tray and plays mp3, wav, wma, cda files all day long without a problem. I've used it since Windows 2000 and it works fine in 8/8.1 too.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
10. I'll try Foxit Reader, thanks.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:08 AM
Aug 2015

Long time user of VLC.

I also have a networked blu-ray player and small hdtv next to my laptop that I stream audio and video with.
Both were amazing sales at Costco

I use the Bar Tab Heavy extension with Firefox to unload tabs in the background.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/

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