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Related: About this forumFun fact about Democrats and voter turnout.
I was Bored and really curious about this voter turnout common knowledge... So I assembled a list of the Presidents since 1944 and looked at what % of the eligible voters did they win when they won the presidency... This is what I found From LOWEST to HIGHEST:
LOWEST - (D) Bill Clinton 1992 - 23.7 % of eligible votes.
(R) George W. Bush 2000 - 24.09 % of eligible votes.
(D) Bill Clinton 1996 - 24.1 % of eligible votes.
(D) Harry Truman 1948 - 25.3 % of eligible votes.
(R) Richard Nixon 1968 - 26.3 % of eligible votes.
(R) Ronald Reagan 1980 - 26.82 % of eligible votes.
(D) Jimmy Carter 1976 - 26.85 % of eligible votes.
(R) George H. W. Bush 1988 - 26.86 % of eligible votes.
(D) Barack Obama 2012 - 28.05 % of eligible votes.
(R) George W. Bush 2004 - 28.2 % of eligible votes.
(D) Franklin D. Roosevelt 1944 - 29.96 % of eligible votes.
(D) Barack Obama 2008 - 30.2 % of eligible votes.
(D) John F. Kennedy 1960 - 31.2 % of eligible votes.
(R) Ronald Reagan 1984 - 31.3 % of eligible votes.
(R) Richard Nixon 1972 - 33.4 % of eligible votes.
(R) Dwight D. Eisenhower 1952 - 34 % of eligible votes.
(R) Dwight D. Eisenhower 1956 - 34 % of eligible votes.
HIGHEST (D) Lyndon B. Johnson 1964 - 37.5 % of eligible votes.
Now this high voter turnout = Democrat seems completely backwards...
3 out of the Bottom 4 are Democrats and 4 out of the top 5 are Republicans.
Noteworthy is that Bill Clinton is the worst performing president since WW2 and by a mile, only Truman comes close.
George H. W. Bush is the only republican president that has not won re-election and not has his voter turnout increase in re-election since WW2... For the Dems it's hard to tell since there are so few cases of running for re-election, but Carter lost, Obama's popularity went down and only Clinton increased his popularity... From the Lowest turnout since WW2 to the third lowest turnout in since WW2....
VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)In 1992 Ross Perot had something like 20% of the vote. It is certainly debatable whether Perot peeled enough votes from HW Bush to cost him the election, although he also probably brought out a lot of people who wouldn't have voted otherwise. Perot did not do nearly that well in 1996, but Clinton still won the Presidency with significantly less that 50% of the vote.
PeterGM
(71 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)Mine was one of them....TWICE!
PeterGM
(71 posts)I read that Perot took voters evenly from Clinton and Bush but I just want to note that you cannot draw the conclusion that all of Perot's voters would have gone out to vote if he wasn't running, in fact, you cannot even conclude what % of Perot voters would have gone out to vote if he wasn't running.
I might be tough on Clinton by pointing this out, but if you start assuming that Perot voters would have gone out to vote in a 50/50 split, the scenario becomes that instead of holding the record for lest % voters in modern history it becomes that no democrat has increased in popularity during their presidency in modern history.... Pick your poison.
PeterGM
(71 posts)Since democrats historically only get one shot, you can say that if you look at first term presidents they have higher turnout than republicans:
This is a List of the First term elections:
LOWEST - (D) Bill Clinton 1992 - 23.7 % of eligible votes.
(R) George W. Bush 2000 - 24.09 % of eligible votes.
(D) Harry Truman 1948 - 25.3 % of eligible votes.
(R) Richard Nixon 1968 - 26.3 % of eligible votes.
(R) Ronald Reagan 1980 - 26.82 % of eligible votes.
(D) Jimmy Carter 1976 - 26.85 % of eligible votes.
(R) George H. W. Bush 1988 - 26.86 % of eligible votes.
(D) Franklin D. Roosevelt 1932 - 30.19 % of eligible votes.
(D) Barack Obama 2008 - 30.2 % of eligible votes.
(D) John F. Kennedy 1960 - 31.2 % of eligible votes.
(R) Dwight D. Eisenhower 1952 - 34 % of eligible votes.
HIGHEST (D) Lyndon B. Johnson 1964 - 37.5 % of eligible votes.
This dramatically changes the picture... Which makes this next election all the more important, since republicans tend to increase in popularity as they run for re-election.
merrily
(45,251 posts)JFK was killed near the end of November 1963. 1968 was an election year. Johnson, only recently a Vice President, got the largest popular vote margin in US Presidential election history. You can't attribute it just to his having been a generic VP because Nixon, a two term VP in one of the most popular administrations in history, had lost to Kennedy only four years earlier.
http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?4379-The-Democratic-Party-ends-pesky-Party-democracy-Part-Four-of-a-Series
http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?4578-The-Democratic-Party-ends-pesky-Party-democracy-Part-Six-of-a-Series
The most consistent and crushingly popular candidate since WW2 is definitely Dwight D. Eisenhower....
But I still find it fascinating that Dems have the top and the bottom and that Dem presidents seem to do worse when going for re-election (not that there's a big sample size) while republicans seem to do A LOT better when running for re-election.
FDR was the last consistently popular and performing Dem president... that's sad.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)BTW, most (not anti-progressivism) historians feel Truman was a very good president in many ways, would have even been great if not for Korea. Big if-not-for, of course. Interesting post, in any case. Thanks, PeterGM.
PeterGM
(71 posts)That it goes to show how little of the actual electorate you need to win a presidential race in the US.... This is why I believe that Trump stands a real chance....
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)NEEDS to come out in droves in November.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Same-old, same-old.
I'd be interested in knowing what percentage might not vote for reasonable reasons.
* Sickness, physical debility.
* Logistic issues. Unexpectedly can't get there. Car problems, weather, etc.
* Conflicting responsibilities. Mom gets sick.
* Went senile/just got "too old" since last election
* Registration problems. Ballot doesn't arrive at new home.
* Conscientious objection to all choices, or democracy (abstention AS voting).
* All ballot choices expected to win anyway -- in these days when people increasingly just vote their party, this number is probably rising significantly. (Our own votes are virtually totally symbolic in the dark-reddest part of a red state. We vote the primaries especially to vote against the worst of the choices, but the worst always win - thus the "virtually."
Before I bother feeling too "sad," I'd like a fairly reliable idea of what this percentage would tend to be in most elections. Then I could subtract that and frown about the others.