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ellisonz

(27,711 posts) Sat Mar 10, 2012, 02:15 AM Mar 2012

Obama's poor finish in Tuesday primary creates delegate quandary for Oklahoma Democratic Party

Two little-known Democratic candidates garnered enough votes in rural districts to create a problem for the Democratic Party over whether they should be awarded delegates to the national convention
By CHRIS CASTEEL | Published: March 8, 2012

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's poor showing among rural voters in Oklahoma's presidential primary on Tuesday put the Oklahoma Democratic Party in a quandary over whether two of the president's little-known opponents should be awarded delegates.

We don't know yet,” Betty McElderry, one of the state party's representatives on the Democratic National Committee, said Wednesday. “We're just in flux.”

Oklahoma Democratic Party chairman Wallace Collins said party officials want to wait until Tuesday's election results are certified by the state election board. In the meantime, he said, they have been reviewing the state party's delegate selection plan and conferring with the national party.

Obama was held to 57 percent of the vote statewide, while anti-abortion activist Randall Terry, of West Virginia, got 18 percent, and perennial candidate Jim Rogers, of Midwest City, got 14 percent. Darcy Richardson, of Florida, received 6 percent of the vote, and Bob Ely, of Illinois, got 5 percent.

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Obama's poor finish in Tuesday primary creates delegate quandary for Oklahoma Democratic Party (Original Post) ellisonz Mar 2012 OP

That's interesting. SheilaT Mar 2012 #1

President Obama will have more than enough delegates to win the nomination, Tx4obama Mar 2012 #2

They pretty much all do. ellisonz Mar 2012 #3

Here are the others, so far ... Tx4obama Mar 2012 #4

I was wrong... ellisonz Mar 2012 #5

Where are you seeing that? n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #6

I realized I should have link! ellisonz Mar 2012 #7

The Ebola virus also alters its habitat, and would compare better to Mr. Terry. nt eppur_se_muova Mar 2012 #8

Wow, I just keep on moving to states SheilaT Mar 2012 #13

Yes they do. I voted (absentee, because I was travelling) in the super Tuesday MA primary for the MADem Mar 2012 #10

I'm quite amazed at all this. SheilaT Apr 2012 #15

Your state primary is 5 June. MADem Apr 2012 #16

I know we have a primary coming up SheilaT Apr 2012 #17

Agreed about the POTUS winning a clear majority, and... LibertyBell7 Apr 2012 #14

I have to agree with u on that.....doesn't sound like any type of Dem I have known NavyDavy Apr 2012 #18

The DNC is big enough to take a joke. President Obama idem. n/t dimbear Mar 2012 #9

Iowa caucuses had a move to have people vote uncommitted rurallib Mar 2012 #11

As Mr Bill would say .... "Oh Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!" JoePhilly Mar 2012 #12

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

1. That's interesting.

Reply to ellisonz (Original post)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 02:39 AM

Mar 2012

Most states don't hold primaries or caucuses in the party of an incumbent President.

Oh. And since when is 57 percent of the vote a poor showing? Plus, do you really suppose that the tiny handful of non-Obama delegates who will go to the Democratic National Convention actually matter?

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

2. President Obama will have more than enough delegates to win the nomination,

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:05 AM

Mar 2012

losing a few here and there is NOT going to make a difference.

p.s. The majority of state are holding Democratic primaries/caucuses - it's just that the media is not taking much about them.

A link for Democratic Party 2012 presidential primaries/caucuses RESULTS* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#Results
*Note: the delegate numbers there are 'total delegates', NOT the number of delegates awarded to Obama.

A link for the United States presidential election, 2012 SCHEDULE* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012_timeline#2012
*Note: some of those dates are incorrect

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)

3. They pretty much all do.

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:10 AM

Mar 2012

He got like 83% in New Hampshire. I haven't bothered checking the others. 57% in an "uncontested" primary for a sitting President definitely shows some dissatisfaction. I think if anything it's an interesting question from a process standpoint. Also, Randall Terry is insane and it seems he got a delegate: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/03/07/randall-terry-wins-a-delegate-in-oklahoma/?mod=WSJBlog

Mr. Terry has been arrested more than 50 times, the first for chaining himself to a sink in an abortion clinic. In a rambling interview with The Wall Street Journal about his candidacy at the start of the primary season, he emphasized that “while I’m best known for my opposition to child killing and homosexual marriage, my interests and my passions go far beyond those things,” saying he is also a musician and a “practical joker.”

Mr. Terry, whose group is known for displaying grisly images of dead fetuses during public protests, compared himself as candidate to a beaver, “the only mammal that sets out deliberately to alter its habitat.”

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

4. Here are the others, so far ...

Reply to ellisonz (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:25 AM

Mar 2012

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#Primary_schedule

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)

5. I was wrong...

Reply to Tx4obama (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:37 AM

Mar 2012

...Hawaii had a preference poll with like 40 voting locations - Obama ~1500 Uncommitted ~40.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

6. Where are you seeing that? n/t

Reply to ellisonz (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:42 AM

Mar 2012

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)

7. I realized I should have link!

Reply to Tx4obama (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:55 AM

Mar 2012

Off the Beat: Why Bother Polling Hawaii Dems About Obama?
By The Civil Beat Staff 03/09/2012

The results are in and — gee, what a shock! — Hawaii Democrats love Barack Obama.

Didn't we already know that?

The Democratic Party of Hawaii held a Democratic Presidential Preference Poll during precinct meetings at 51 locations across the state on Wednesday.

The results, finalized late Thursday:

Votes cast: 1,358

For Obama: 1,316

Uncommitted: 42

Party officials felt it was important to hold a presidential preference poll, even though the outcome seemed obvious.

http://www.civilbeat.com/articles/2012/03/09/15144-off-the-beat-why-bother-polling-hawaii-dems-about-obama/

eppur_se_muova

(36,274 posts)

8. The Ebola virus also alters its habitat, and would compare better to Mr. Terry. nt

Reply to ellisonz (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 05:18 AM

Mar 2012

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

13. Wow, I just keep on moving to states

Reply to ellisonz (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:26 PM

Mar 2012

that don't hold a Democratic caucus or primary if we have an incumbent Democratic President.

MADem

(135,425 posts)

10. Yes they do. I voted (absentee, because I was travelling) in the super Tuesday MA primary for the

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 05:47 AM

Mar 2012

incumbent President.

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

15. I'm quite amazed at all this.

Reply to MADem (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:24 PM

Apr 2012

I'm fairly certain my state, New Mexico, isn't bothering with a Democratic primary, and I know that Kansas, where I lived in 1996, didn't hold one that year.

I'm not real certain there's a point, and it costs money to hold a primary. Or a caucus. Whichever. And I'm not sure I'd bother to show up if NM does hold a Democratic primary this year. Yes, I support Obama, and yes I'll be voting for him in November, but what in the world is the point, since he's going to be the nominee. It's not like 1980 when Kennedy challenged sitting the sitting president for the nomination.

MADem

(135,425 posts)

16. Your state primary is 5 June.

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:02 AM

Apr 2012

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G12/NM

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

17. I know we have a primary coming up

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:24 PM

Apr 2012

for all the other offices, but are we going to get to help select the Democratic presidential nominee?

I have been referring specifically to the presidential preference primaries in which ONLY the persons running for the presidential nomination in their party are being considered, NOT the general primary for all the other offices.