and it was a fun place to hang out.

The aggravation began early in PBO's administration. And it got so bad that discussion of "ponies" was actually banned.

Back then my question was: When did Yes WE Can become Yes HE Can and why hasn't he?

I'm still asking.

that the Presidency comes with a magic wand and unlimited power to use it. Oh, and don't forget they are smart enough to know the answers to all our problems if only PBO would listen to THEM and no one else.

Some days I just don't have the stomach for GD. I don't agree with everything that PBO has done, but the bashing and discontent with EVERYTHING he does is more than I can tolerate. Thank goodness for BOG.

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If the Republicans (the Koch brothers) take over in 2016 this will be a happy place again.

People will offer solutions how to make do in a new paradigm. Since they hate everything about the old one and all the people in it, their positive side will come out.

They will have good debates about how to implement civil libertarian ideology and forget the denial of civil rights that lead to income inequality. Complaints about sexism, racism and homophobia will be considered whining, as they are now.

Happier days are ahead.

The Democratic Party haters go from thread to thread with:

THE DEMOCRATS TORTURED.
THE DEMOCRATS KILLED.
THE DEMOCRATS RUINED US.
THE DEMOCRATS THIS AND THAT.

The facts don't matter. They will NOT give ground to reason or logic. I'm not buying anyone's excuses why they CANNOT LET ONE SINGLE THREAD OF GOOD NEWS OR SOLUTIONS, STAND WITHOUT THE LITANY OF ACCUSATIONS.

No more than the guys at the White House calling for Obama to be lynched, who said they wanted the lynching to be slow and painful and wanted him tarred and feathered. They guffawed about how they were trees right there to do itwith. IOW, tortured and killed along with all Democrats.

The most hateful ones never show up on those threads to condemn those who want our President dead, in gruesome fashion, they never dispute the laughter and snickering such as that video had. They save their outrage solely for Democrats.

There was a reason I didn't like HRC in the primaries. It was the things she laughed at, that were not funny and the suggestion that Obama had to pick a running mate (hint, hint - her) during the primaries, in case he was killed like RFK. She saw all of that in bloody technicolor, like many of us. What a horrible thing to bring up then, not that there weren't threats, and some of them were caught and prosecuted, too.

Now that may just have been a case of incurable foot-in-mouth, or she was actually concerned that there would be no strong Democratic candidate to run against the insane McCain and Sister Sarah. We can't forget that after RFK was murdered, the result was a Nixon presidency. Not just because of that, but largely because of that, IMO...

So when people cruise DU and make posts calling for Eric Holder to be raped anally to death over F&F, pot, banks or whatever, and others cheer them on, it changed my mind about a lot of things. Not in the way one might think. I know that Conservatives are really into talking about anal sex, they toss it into all threads. Are we to think that they are posting here?

Wishing harm is dehumanizing, the first step in that death wish. It's the same energy Rush sent out when he said that liberals should be hunted down with dogs, that none should be left alive except as living fossils and a warning to others to not go with the Democratic Party again.

Tell me, Steve, what is this place that I find myself at, after joining DU2 and having thought I would have a place to celebrate what good things could be done? To make suggestions, to encourage those who were into alternative energy, against wars, for civil rights? To talk about and expand the good Obama and the Democrats have done? And have policy discussions with people of many backgrounds, from whom I learned so much they broadened my world view and that of my fellow Americans, with all their difference lives?

I left a hostile website that had both liberals and conservatives to come here in 2010. Now I lurk there and they are nowhere near as visceral in their hatred for Democrats as this place is, daily ripping the guts out of every Democrat and everyone who dares to say anything good.

It's like a game of Mortal Kombat. Rip their spines out! KILL HIM! We are shouted down with filthy talk whenever we dare to discuss things. That's why we can't organize here. Period. I think what I posted in bold and in italics is the truth.

Time will tell.

and to tired to really comment on what you just said.

However, KnR for the truth freshwest.

me and many milliions of Dems won't be. And, we will continue to work like crazy to make sure that doesn't happen.

Good post, fresh.. my internet has been down all day and I've just been chillin'(actually chilly here on Kauai) .. felt really peaceful. thought I'd check out the BOG when it came back on though.. see what's up!?

You want a place to celebrate good things that are happening and not so good.. in the Obama Admin without all the CT and hate dripping outta others' keyboards? Try here.. Yeah, this is just a Christmas thread with the Obamas but hey it's that time of year.. Chipsticks covers it all 24/7..

Christmas in Washington



http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/14/christmas-in-washington-2/

It's in the forties here and going into the thirties. Better than last week, though. The rain returns again tomorrow.

I got soaked! Except I had fun!

It's hard to figure out what makes a republican tick...

They throw out all the 'surface words'...unconstitutional, state's rights, arrogant, tyrant...but never connect the words to something that is going on or has happened in the past. Anyone one can do this, why don't we start making the news with the same words?


Hysteria as the true republican political platform.

I would like to get connect to a web page that plans weekly demonstrations. We need a new strategy, it's time for our number to show.

One email from the site that goes to thousands of Democrats. If it worked so well for the Town Hall - kill Obama Care group to get on the news....maybe it time we start throwing out words that can drive them crazy and they can see our numbers.

This worked for the Arab Spring....it worked in Hong Kong....We need something that is in every state of the union to coordinate what I feel, is the feelings of most of the country.


BTW Hi Freshwest...It's me

And the BOG is about the only place to be at DU for the time being...

...with trollery and assholery. There are over 300 replies, and venom barely begins to describe it.

I came here to the BOG looking for a safe haven to express that I am just sick to the core at what is going on at DU. BOG is where most of my friends hang out, but GD is no place to be.

What happened to the Admins? I read recently that they decided to "let the community run itself." Is that so, and does it essentially mean they have abandoned their own creation to the fate of being overrun with filth and hatred?

Someone help me understand this.

No one can speak for them, but they don't seem to want to play hall monitor while the children beat the crap out of each other. No rules are in force, maybe they have too much faith in people.

I don't see them post on much of anything anymore, but it appears they are always hard at work doing their 'geek' (or whatever you call it) work with the site. It's a different world for them with the servers.

It may be that they're sick of the fighting going on and have given up being involved. I know most Democrats have left here. I hope you are doing well. This place gives me heartburn and worse.

My guess is Admins are over at Discussionist. ATA is full of questions waiting to be answered.

At this point, if you want to troll GD, you express your support for the Democratic Party and President Obama. You then get a response like you see with MM. Amazing, just amazing, for a site called Democratic Underground.

at first I was bummed but then I decided it was a gift.