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Sanders' alleging Hillary and DNC violating campaign finance laws - true? (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
Bernt himself again, eh? johnp3907 Apr 2016 #1
Great that Rachel Maddow was on it!! Her Sister Apr 2016 #2
Having been caught several times violating campaign finance laws, Sanders uses the They did it too Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #3
Maybe the effort to prove Hillary has violated campaign finance laws could have been placed on Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #8
Karl Rove tactic apcalc Apr 2016 #29
Andrea Mitchell hates the Clintons. displacedtexan Apr 2016 #4
Andrea is not exactly unbiased when it comes to the Clintons, and it shows. Hekate Apr 2016 #22
When Rachel began the pitch to the story.... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #28
Since he didn't complain to the FEC... Princess Turandot Apr 2016 #5
LOL @ children's crusade. livetohike Apr 2016 #9
Of course he didn't - he's afraid of the FEC, he and his Treasurer still have about.... George II Apr 2016 #36
Sanders is now using the 'throw different shit at a fan everyday' campaign strategy. LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #6
B.S. keeps throwing stuff out there to see if it will stick. livetohike Apr 2016 #7
What's that noun used so often on HRC supporters? Quayblue Apr 2016 #19
And this non-Democrat apcalc Apr 2016 #30
Yes and that is one of my main dislikes of him. livetohike Apr 2016 #32
Best way to get super delegates is to call fundraising for them illegal. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #10
Damn. If Andrea Mitchell isn't trying to make it stick, then you know... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #11
More hyperbolic crap Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #12
That's the truth apcalc Apr 2016 #31
Here is the e-mail from his campaign. athena Apr 2016 #13
Ug. Looks like Sanders made those false charges just to fundraise off of it! SunSeeker Apr 2016 #17
That's how it looks, isn't it? athena Apr 2016 #18
It took the Sanders Campaign just twenty-six minutes to accuse then try to fundraise! BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #23
Wow! The 2 letters are so different! Her Sister Apr 2016 #34
It's basically a nasty gram ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #14
Sounds like Sanders will say anything to keep his campaign going. nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #15
It's true... JSup Apr 2016 #16
Burning Man Festival coming up! Hekate Apr 2016 #20
Donated twice to HRC over this horseshit nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #21
I cannot think of any candidate/campaign that has ever lied more. Lucinda Apr 2016 #24
Nor can I ... yes ... they're disgusting. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #25
A snake in the grass is the Senator from Vermont. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #26
BS from BS apcalc Apr 2016 #27
The BS campaign might want to be careful with accusations on campaign finance liberal N proud Apr 2016 #33
I hope this becomes another BIG FAIL! Her Sister Apr 2016 #35
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
2. Great that Rachel Maddow was on it!!
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:02 PM
Apr 2016

So good to know this~ ANOTHER FAIL!!!!!!

edit: Did they mention FEC letters to BS campaign?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. Having been caught several times violating campaign finance laws, Sanders uses the They did it too
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:04 PM
Apr 2016

argument beloved of the 12 and below set.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Maybe the effort to prove Hillary has violated campaign finance laws could have been placed on
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

making sure Sanders campaign was not violating campaign finance laws and having to spend time returning overpayments of donations. Some appear to be a direct effort to violate the laws.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
4. Andrea Mitchell hates the Clintons.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

Were there one iota of truth to this crap accusation, she'd be on it like white on rice.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
28. When Rachel began the pitch to the story....
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:22 AM
Apr 2016

...and then said "and here's Andrea Mitchell to comment" I yelled at the screen, "are you kidding? That's who you get to report on the veracity of an anti Clinton claim?"

But then she wound up being pretty fair in her assessment ~

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
5. Since he didn't complain to the FEC...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

which actually has jurisdiction, I'm sure he doesn't believe it either! But it will be bring in more money from the childrens' crusade.

George II

(67,782 posts)
36. Of course he didn't - he's afraid of the FEC, he and his Treasurer still have about....
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:47 AM
Apr 2016

.....500 pages of illegal contributions to wade through.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
6. Sanders is now using the 'throw different shit at a fan everyday' campaign strategy.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

How pathetic his campaign has become.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
7. B.S. keeps throwing stuff out there to see if it will stick.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

Basically his entire campaign is a character assassination on Hillary Clinton. He's pathetic and a fraud.

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
30. And this non-Democrat
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:30 AM
Apr 2016

Is screwing the Democratic Party. Can't help himself.

" It would be hypocritical for me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."

Bernie Sanders
Socialist Scholars Conference
New York City, April 1990

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
32. Yes and that is one of my main dislikes of him.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:34 AM
Apr 2016

The other is his arrogance and whining. I see nothing uplifting about his campaign, just a bunch of complaints and no solutions.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
10. Best way to get super delegates is to call fundraising for them illegal.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is going to win a lot of hearts and minds with that.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
11. Damn. If Andrea Mitchell isn't trying to make it stick, then you know...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:22 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie no longer has even a snowball's chance in hell at getting the nomination.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
12. More hyperbolic crap
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

From Tad Devine. I swear the entire Sanders campaign is either smoking crack or huffing glue. Never seen such careless disregard for the truth in any other campaign this season. If he keeps this up, Sanders will be a Democratic pariah long before the convention rolls around.

athena

(4,187 posts)
13. Here is the e-mail from his campaign.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

Here is the e-mail from the Bernie campaign:

Subject: This should anger EVERYONE

There’s something I need to share with you, athena, and it’s probably going
to anger you. It should probably anger everyone. Here it is:

Our opponent is bending campaign finance rules to their breaking point all
so Wall Street fat cats and people like Walmart's Alice Walton can get away
with giving hundreds of thousands of dollars in a single contribution to
benefit the Clinton campaign.

You already know about the fundraiser Hillary Clinton held where a couple
could contribute $353,000 to sit at a table with George Clooney. That money
doesn’t go directly to the Clinton campaign, it goes to something called the
"Hillary Victory Fund" – another account that has raised almost $35 million.

Well, for MONTHS the Clinton campaign has been saying the primary purpose of
that fund is to support the DNC and state parties. But that’s not even close
to true.

According to the Hillary Victory Fund’s most recent FEC report, the vast
majority of the money they spent in 2016 – $25 MILLION – went directly
towards helping the Clinton campaign itself.

So, what can we do about it? We can either sit back and shrug our shoulders
at yet another obscene injustice. Or, we can fight. I say we fight.

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So, this is distressing, but it’s probably to be expected. The Clinton
campaign has raised the majority of its money from people giving the maximum
amount of money under the law and her super PACs have raised more than $15
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Do you believe we can change a corrupt system by taking its money? Bernie
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And here is the response from Hillary's campaign:

Subject: Bernie’s latest attack is irresponsible and poisonous

His baseless attack against Hillary


Athena --

I want to let you know about a development that just occurred, because it
matters. The tone of this primary matters, and the condition of our party at
the end of it will matter as we prepare to face Donald Trump or Ted Cruz
this fall.

Earlier today, the Sanders campaign wrote a letter to the Democratic
National Committee, falsely accusing us of violating campaign finance law.

You won’t be surprised by what happened next: 26 minutes after the letter
was sent, his campaign sent a fundraising email attempting to capitalize on
the phony charges.

(Before you read any further, let's get one thing straight: this accusation
is false. They're questioning our joint fundraising agreement with the DNC,
which allows us to support Democrats running up and down the ticket -- the
same fundraising structure used by President Obama in 2008 and 2012.)

This latest incident is part of a troubling pattern of behavior -- occurring
just as Bernie’s mathematical odds of winning the nomination dwindle
toward zero -- in which Sanders and his team are not just debating us on
issues (which we all agree is perfectly fair), but rather attacking Hillary
Clinton’s character, integrity, and motivations.

The fact that they include the Democratic Party in these charges -- an
organization we want future generations of progressives to trust and support
-- further confirms that the Sanders campaign has let things get out of hand
in its waning days. To wit:

* Over the weekend, they had protesters outside one of our fundraising
events -- one whose proceeds went not just to Hillary for America, but to
the Democratic National Committee and 32 state Democratic Parties --
throwing dollar bills at Hillary’s motorcade, as if they were at, shall we
say, an adult entertainment venue. This was just days after someone
introducing Bernie at a rally called Hillary a “Democratic whore.”
* In last week’s debate, Bernie questioned Hillary’s commitment to
fighting climate change because a whopping 0.2% of the money given to our
campaign has come from employees of oil and gas companies. Not even 2%, mind
you: 0.2%.
* And of course, Sanders spent several days calling Hillary unqualified for
the presidency, based on an entirely false claim that Hillary had said the
same about him. She hadn’t (and still hasn’t, even after what he said).
To be clear, we welcome a debate on the important issues facing Americans,
like how to prevent gun violence, encourage tolerance, and do more to level
the playing field for Americans who are counting on us.

But it’s hard to see how anyone -- other than Donald Trump and Ted Cruz --
benefits from this downward spiral of irresponsible and baseless attacks.
Right about now is when we ought to be talking about coming together as a
progressive movement, not undermining a generation of voters’ faith in the
Democratic Party and in the woman who is almost certain to be its nominee.

Thank you for everything you do to support our campaign.

Robby

Robby Mook
Campaign Manager
Hillary for America


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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
34. Wow! The 2 letters are so different!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:31 AM
Apr 2016

Weaver's got nothing but anger and hate!

Mook's letter is clearheaded and just smart!

Interesting!!!

READY FOR HER!
Contributed to HER last night!
VOTING FOR HER IN NY Today!!!!!

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
33. The BS campaign might want to be careful with accusations on campaign finance
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:10 AM
Apr 2016

After paying for a trip to see the pope in the hallway, paid for with campaign money only to say it wasn't political.

I would think that would be a very clear violation, but then his faithful followers will praise his stunt.

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