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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:02 PM Apr 2016

Tweety Going Off on Sanders and Chuck Toad

Says Sanders is lying when he says Hillary gives speeches to WS while an elected official. Points out that's been illegal to do for decades. Asks "what good is Sanders' scorched earth policy doing?"

Toad says Sanders could lose the election but take over the party with his message. "He's 75," scoffs Tweets, "who is going to take over the movement? Warren? She's not a leader. Not going to happen."

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Tweety Going Off on Sanders and Chuck Toad (Original Post) stopbush Apr 2016 OP
About time for a cold dose of reality. Surprising it's Tweety delivering it. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #1
It may be Tweety's sincere belief, OR it could be that his wife is running for Congress and spooky3 Apr 2016 #3
Like you said ladym55 Apr 2016 #5
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #2
Tweety was talking about that yesterday, too. SharonClark Apr 2016 #4
I agree. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders livetohike Apr 2016 #6
Bernie needs to concede, or pull back, next Tuesday. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #7
Concede? He'll still be raising $ in December. stopbush Apr 2016 #10
Bwaahaaaa! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #22
If anyone takes over the movement, it would have to be a young person. Koinos Apr 2016 #8
Bingo. Personality based revolutions are usually short lived stopbush Apr 2016 #9
A genuine progressive leader would appeal to the best and not worst elements of human nature. Koinos Apr 2016 #13
Well spoke. stopbush Apr 2016 #15
Sanders is a protest candidate -- all thunder and no substance. Koinos Apr 2016 #17
Last year few outside of Vermont knew Sanders existed CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #12
Promise a "chicken in every pot," as they used to say. Koinos Apr 2016 #14
I'm a Different Sort of Candidate Treant Apr 2016 #19
Free-running pothead chickens. Koinos Apr 2016 #20
He doesn't improve on acquaintance, that's for sure. LisaM Apr 2016 #16
K&R. nt UtahLib Apr 2016 #11
I'm not a fan of Tweety NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #18
I think what we may be seeing DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #21
HOLY SHIT!! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #23
You go Tweety! mcar Apr 2016 #24

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
3. It may be Tweety's sincere belief, OR it could be that his wife is running for Congress and
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

is very aware that Clinton, and not Sanders, has worked to help candidates like Kathleen Matthews get elected.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
4. Tweety was talking about that yesterday, too.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

He seems torn between Hillary and Sanders and has said as much, but when something bugs him (like this Sanders' claim) he's like a pit bull. (no offense to pit bulls)

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
6. I agree. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

retires. as far as a Warren, no one outside of DU knows who she is.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
10. Concede? He'll still be raising $ in December.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:26 PM
Apr 2016

And the BSers will continue sending in their $27.

"It's undemocratic that the GE is held on a Tuesday in November. It disenfranchises everyone who prefers to vote on a Wednesday in January. We're filing a lawsuit, and Susan Sarandon and Mark Ruffolo are going to visit the Pope to enlist his help as a character witness for Bernie. They're close friends, you know!"

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
22. Bwaahaaaa!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:29 PM
Apr 2016
"It's undemocratic that the GE is held on a Tuesday in November. It disenfranchises everyone who prefers to vote on a Wednesday in January.


And, he'll keeping milking that on-line cash cow as long as his disciples go on believing. After all:

"There's one born every minute." ~ P. T. Barnum

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
8. If anyone takes over the movement, it would have to be a young person.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

Someone like a Bobby Kennedy. I don't see any promising and charismatic individuals like that in Sanders' circle. And it would have to be a genuine Democrat.

Sanders' movement will fade with him.

I feel sorry for young people who invested time, money, energy, and hope in the wrong person. He is not the man they think he is.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
13. A genuine progressive leader would appeal to the best and not worst elements of human nature.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:54 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders appeals primarily to anger, fear, frustration, and hate. You can't build a lasting movement on anger and hate. You have to have the power to draw people together. You have to unify and be inclusive. You have to make people feel good about their party, their country, their way of life. You build on strength and not weakness, solidarity and not divisiveness, realistic hope and not pipe dreams. "Free college" is not a vision of the future. A vision of the future embraces everyone -- young and old, all income levels, all belief systems, all genders, all races, all ethnic and religious groups. You don't attack persons. You attack problems.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
17. Sanders is a protest candidate -- all thunder and no substance.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

His appeal is hypnotic, but temporary. People eventually get tired of feeling angry all the time.

His flawed character has deeply hurt and needlessly retarded the progressive movement.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
12. Last year few outside of Vermont knew Sanders existed
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

And those that didn't consider him a leader. Just goes to prove that if your willing to be disingenuous enough to promise that you will implement every progressive program known to man, and some socialist programs to boot, there are people clueless enough to follow you.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
16. He doesn't improve on acquaintance, that's for sure.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

I listened to him for years on Thom Hartmann, and I always thought he'd be a good fit for Sunday morning talk shows. But now, deconstructing the past, I realize that he gave pretty much the same answer to every question posed him by Hartmann's listeners (a very sympathetic crowd), and essentially just gave the people what they wanted to hear. I suspect what kept him off the Sunday talk shows was that no one likes him.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
18. I'm not a fan of Tweety
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

but I have to say when he sees something egregious he will speak out. It seems that lately he's getting disgusted with Sanders.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
21. I think what we may be seeing
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:19 PM
Apr 2016

is that a couple of them, like Matthews and Maddow are actually trying to be reporters and sneak it in, here and there, DESPITE what they're being told to do.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
23. HOLY SHIT!!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

Chris Matthews just said that Sanders' ad is a flat out LIE, and that it needs to be pulled!

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