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Now BS is whining about the NY voting process. (Original Post) spooky3 Apr 2016 OP
Watching it... radical noodle Apr 2016 #1
A live speech? Sparkly Apr 2016 #2
This. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #7
there needs to be an indpendent category in the primary for bernie types who hate the dem party nt msongs Apr 2016 #15
They qualify their candidate on the general election ballot. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #17
"a pathetic little man" workinclasszero Apr 2016 #4
That's what I said, workin.. Cha Apr 2016 #8
Unbelievable that he would be making such excuses for the loss radical noodle Apr 2016 #19
Everytime he loses he & his supporters have some excuse book_worm Apr 2016 #3
I just saw this and stopped feeling sorry for him. LisaM Apr 2016 #5
Of course he is.. let him whine... just shows what a bad president he would have made Cha Apr 2016 #6
You're absolutely right! spooky3 Apr 2016 #9
Oh Tweety.. all you have to do is go online.. I researched my state.. it was all different for Cha Apr 2016 #18
When you plan a hostile takeover sometimes you lose. Hillary is the most qualified candidate Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #14
Yeah, whatever happened to that rushing the voting places that the BSrs were planning Cha Apr 2016 #22
Hey, they like Bernie for rallies, but they were not going to risk committing a felony for him lunamagica Apr 2016 #33
Surprised. lol I read TYT Cenk was advocating that.. he should Cha Apr 2016 #34
Absolutely, Cha! brer cat Apr 2016 #20
I know brer.. I was sweating it! Late to the party but my internet made it! Cha Apr 2016 #23
Part of getting votes is getting the people out to vote. The inability Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #10
And his "independent voters" are NOT representative of spooky3 Apr 2016 #12
By tomorrow NY will be under the bus with lots others, in fact Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #28
Expanding the party... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #11
Loose cannon now. Risks sinking the Democratic Party ship while he Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #13
he does not now and never did care about the democratic party, just himself nt msongs Apr 2016 #16
He press-ganged the Democratic Party for his own doomed and quixotic ends. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #21
Yes workinclasszero Apr 2016 #24
He and his supporters are not Democrats Legends303 Apr 2016 #26
Weaver and Devine are incompetent boobs. Bernie is a Socialist. End of story. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #27
BS democratic carpetbagger Whimsey Apr 2016 #25
I've never seen him do anything but whine. eom UtahLib Apr 2016 #29
I don't recall then Senator Obama complaining about this is 2008.... Princess Turandot Apr 2016 #30
They're also complaining about 'purged' voters.... Princess Turandot Apr 2016 #31
Exactly. One reason states regularly move voters to inactive status stopbush Apr 2016 #32

msongs

(67,413 posts)
15. there needs to be an indpendent category in the primary for bernie types who hate the dem party nt
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:49 AM
Apr 2016

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
17. They qualify their candidate on the general election ballot.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

They don't even need a primary!

They just don't get to pick OUR nominee.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
19. Unbelievable that he would be making such excuses for the loss
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

He didn't complain about people not being able to vote in the races he won.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
3. Everytime he loses he & his supporters have some excuse
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:33 AM
Apr 2016

He only wins lily white most small caucus states. He loses because he can't draw votes in diverse states that have large minority populations. It's as simple as that.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
5. I just saw this and stopped feeling sorry for him.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:38 AM
Apr 2016

It's not the political process. It is the party process. I walk around Greenpoint and Williamsburg. It isn't my Irish immigrant ancestors there anymore, so solidly identified with a party. It's hipsters with beard combs drinking craft cocktails who are sooooo.....proud not to belong to a party.

Cha

(297,285 posts)
6. Of course he is.. let him whine... just shows what a bad president he would have made
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:38 AM
Apr 2016

if more people didn't want Hillary!

Dems for Hillary Big Surprise.. and if his supporters knew the rules they could have changed their registration to Dem and voted too. Why didn't he inform them? Why did he keep them "low information voters"?


Putain Démocratique ??@goddamnedfrank
If you can’t even research your State’s primary rules and register on time maybe you shouldn’t call other people “low information voters.”
6:58 PM - 18 Apr 2016
20 20 Retweets 15 15 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/19/early-bird-chat-723/#comments

Hillary spooky

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
9. You're absolutely right!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016


And Tweety just said, "any college course is harder than figuring out how to vote."

Cha

(297,285 posts)
18. Oh Tweety.. all you have to do is go online.. I researched my state.. it was all different for
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

the Primary and I had never voted in a Presidential Primary before in Hawaii.

Hillary spooky!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. When you plan a hostile takeover sometimes you lose. Hillary is the most qualified candidate
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

Running, running against the most qualified candidate is squashing the hostile takeover. We still vote.

Cha

(297,285 posts)
22. Yeah, whatever happened to that rushing the voting places that the BSrs were planning
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

online?

We Won, Thinking, by double digits! Hillary

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
33. Hey, they like Bernie for rallies, but they were not going to risk committing a felony for him
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:04 AM
Apr 2016

I think that once word came out telling how lying about being registered was a crime, they backed off.

Cha

(297,285 posts)
34. Surprised. lol I read TYT Cenk was advocating that.. he should
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:07 AM
Apr 2016

feel dumb today.

"In a speech to supporters, in which she declared that "victory is in sight" in the race for the nomination, Clinton reached out to those who had backed Sanders, saying, "I believe there is much more that unites us than divides us."


Hillary Clinton celebrates with her husband after winning the New York primary.
(Spencer Platt / Getty Images)


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-new-york-democratic-primary-20160419-story.html

Iaaahttp://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=108832

Hillary

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Part of getting votes is getting the people out to vote. The inability
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

Of independents to vote in NY falls totally on the voters. The campaign would have gotten more votes if they educated the supporters and knew the rules. Now they want to blame everyone else but the one responsible for their decision.

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
12. And his "independent voters" are NOT representative of
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:46 AM
Apr 2016

Independents who will vote in the general.

538 published a careful analysis showing why not.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. By tomorrow NY will be under the bus with lots others, in fact
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:27 AM
Apr 2016

We are campaigning more so it gives us a common meeting place, our rally.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
11. Expanding the party...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:46 AM
Apr 2016

means that you go out and register people so that they are invested in the Democratic Party. If your support is built up entirely on independents who want to dip in and then leave, you do not deserve to be the democratic nominee.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. Loose cannon now. Risks sinking the Democratic Party ship while he
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:46 AM
Apr 2016

crashes and thrashes around on deck. Dangerously out of control.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
21. He press-ganged the Democratic Party for his own doomed and quixotic ends.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:55 AM
Apr 2016

He doesn't give a rat's rectum how much he damages the Party and its nominee, in pursuit of his exercise in egomania.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. Yes
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:01 AM
Apr 2016

And now he and his people will try to inflict maximum damage on the party and hurt Hillary's chances in the GE

 

Legends303

(481 posts)
26. He and his supporters are not Democrats
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:16 AM
Apr 2016

anyway, his campaign is incompetent. If he told them to register in October then maybe it would have been a different outcome. If he wants to run for the nomination of a party you need to have a ground game and try to get actual democratic support. If he wants to claim independent votes only and wants to brag about being a independent then why not run for another nomination and don't waste our time.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
25. BS democratic carpetbagger
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:03 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie ran as an independent his whole life, could have run as an independent for president but chose to run as a democrat. Now he is complaining about their delegate rules, which he never bothered to learn before he ran. He and his campaign supporters make clear they have no loyalty to the democratic party. It is just a means to the end for him and them.

I happen to believe we need a strong third party. I supported the green party in 2000 and 2004 because Nader preached "get the money out of politics" and actually lived it. (And I live in Illinois which always goes democratic). BS is all about ego, not about democracy.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
30. I don't recall then Senator Obama complaining about this is 2008....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:45 AM
Apr 2016

when he lost NY.

If a voter is too blase or too cool to register for a political party, an effort that does not cost them any money or time, or blood, sweat or tears, I have little patience for them.

And this is not a new procedure: it goes back decades. So these folks have not been interested in voting in the Democratic party's primary in the past? Cry me a river.

And while the Sanders team complains about these no-party voters, how about the several million registered Democrats who didn't actually vote? Maybe if he tried to appeal to folks other than college students, he might have made more headway with that pool of potential voters.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
31. They're also complaining about 'purged' voters....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:00 AM
Apr 2016

Every year, NYS moves voters from an active status to inactive, based upon a lack of voting following state election law guidelines. After further inactivity, once again based upon guidelines, the registrations are purged. Several hundred thousand voters every year are removed from the voting rolls, not surprising given the state's population.

But there are now people complaining that 'Sanders voters' were the ones purged to deny him victory. That would mean that months ago, long before the first primary, the NYS BOE had the ability to predict who was going to vote for him. Who knew that the Psychics Network was now on the state payroll!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
32. Exactly. One reason states regularly move voters to inactive status
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:21 AM
Apr 2016

is to use it as an incentive to stay active as a voter...or else.

Do these people not realize that they are admitting to not giving a crap about doing their civic duty and voting regularly to keep their voter registration active? Is the rest of the world supposed to snap to attention when they finally deign to do their civic duty?

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