Hillary Clinton

Pika78

(55 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:58 AM Apr 2016

IT'S OVER

This is a great article from Business Insider UK, including perfect responses to the usual lame but-but-but arguments put forth by the Sanders folks. Enjoy!

Hillary has the Democratic primary in the bag

Technically, the Democratic presidential contest is not yet over.

But let's be real. It's over. Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee for president.

It's not just that Bernie Sanders lost delegate-rich New York by a wide margin Tuesday night. It's that the margins by which he'd need to win in the remaining contests to overtake Clinton are implausible.

Currently, Clinton has 55 percent of the pledged delegates and almost 2.7 million more votes than Sanders.

That might not sound like a huge lead, but almost two-thirds of the pledged delegates have already been awarded. So, as Nate Cohn of The New York Times notes, Sanders would need to win the remaining contests by an average of 18 points to overtake Clinton in pledged delegates. So far, he's only managed that big a margin in two primary states: New Hampshire and Vermont, his home state.

Full story here: http://uk.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-democratic-nomination-bernie-sanders-2016-4?r=US&IR=T

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IT'S OVER (Original Post) Pika78 Apr 2016 OP

Don't expect this to change anything. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #1

Media narrative around Sanders has now changed. He is already being portrayed stopbush Apr 2016 #2

Another weeks pay for his staff? yallerdawg Apr 2016 #3

The BSers like to say that we have been saying Sanders is dead for months, stopbush Apr 2016 #4

He's like Frankensanders. It's still alive! Walk away Apr 2016 #6

New York - The Hammer! yallerdawg Apr 2016 #7

If Hillary increases her delegate lead next Tuesday... Walk away Apr 2016 #5

2.7 million more Popular votes after NY, ~~ 3 million next week???? Her Sister Apr 2016 #8

It's over. It's over. It's over. Sooner or later, the denial will end. The only question is when. Her Sister Apr 2016 #9

maintain course and speed creon Apr 2016 #10

Sanders can no longer claim momentum pandr32 Apr 2016 #11

His Independent so called voters Legends303 Apr 2016 #16

Can someone please let Sanders know? sarae Apr 2016 #12

I like this article, Pika.. Mahalo! Cha Apr 2016 #13

He looked like he'd seen the writing on the wall last night. sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #14

Denial is a powerful thing Pika78 Apr 2016 #15

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)

1. Don't expect this to change anything.

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:36 AM

Apr 2016

This is going to run until it reaches the end, I don't think Sanders has said anything that would indicate otherwise. I just wish it wouldn't take so bloody long.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)

2. Media narrative around Sanders has now changed. He is already being portrayed

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:35 AM

Apr 2016

as a not-viable candidate. The longer he stays in, the worse the press will attack him for tilting at windmills. His message - based so heavily on support he hasn't received - will be seen as being more and more out of touch with reality.

I think he will drop out earlier than many expected.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

3. Another weeks pay for his staff?

Reply to stopbush (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:40 AM

Apr 2016

Next Wednesday (after Super Tuesday, Version 4/26) we all wake up in a different world!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)

4. The BSers like to say that we have been saying Sanders is dead for months,

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:49 AM

Apr 2016

but he keeps going. Well, any sane person would read the handwriting on the wall and quit. Sanders has a problem with reality. You can't blame us for imagining he'd do the obvious.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

6. He's like Frankensanders. It's still alive!

Reply to stopbush (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:51 AM

Apr 2016

But it's really dead.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

7. New York - The Hammer!

Reply to Walk away (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:53 AM

Apr 2016

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

5. If Hillary increases her delegate lead next Tuesday...

Reply to stopbush (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:50 AM

Apr 2016

and I assume that she will, the media are going to take out their long knives and start cutting away at Bernie's support. Hillary's campaign has used this latest win in NY to change the narrative and turn Bernie's attacks against her into an even bigger negative than they were before Tuesday night. This is a good test of a strategy that should work well in the general too.

I am enjoying the politics. Hillary Clinton is not only the best qualified to be POTUS, she is also the best and smartest candidate for office.

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)

8. 2.7 million more Popular votes after NY, ~~ 3 million next week????

Reply to Walk away (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:26 AM

Apr 2016

237 more delegates right after NY, ~~ 300 more delegates next week??

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)

9. It's over. It's over. It's over. Sooner or later, the denial will end. The only question is when.

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:27 AM

Apr 2016

http://uk.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-democratic-nomination-bernie-sanders-2016-4?r=US&IR=T

It's over. It's over. It's over. Sooner or later, the denial will end. The only question is when.

eom

creon

(1,183 posts)

10. maintain course and speed

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:28 AM

Apr 2016

The Clinton team cannot relax.
There are primaries to win and delegates to obtain.
They cannot relax.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)

11. Sanders can no longer claim momentum

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:38 AM

Apr 2016

All he can do is claim to have independents. That sure as heck isn't going to sway the super-delegates, and Weaver says they will tilt to Bernie...sure they will

It's all over. Maybe the little birdie was trying to tell him so.

Legends303

(481 posts)

16. His Independent so called voters

Reply to pandr32 (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:07 PM

Apr 2016

are just his young supporters that he brainwashed, they haven't registered Democrat so most them is independent.

sarae

(3,284 posts)

12. Can someone please let Sanders know?

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:46 AM

Apr 2016

It seems he's lost the memo.

Cha

(297,314 posts)

13. I like this article, Pika.. Mahalo!

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:01 PM

Apr 2016

sweetloukillbot

(11,029 posts)

14. He looked like he'd seen the writing on the wall last night.

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:04 PM

Apr 2016

That brief statement was not the statement of someone who had any faith in his path going forward. He looked absolutely destroyed.

Pika78

(55 posts)

15. Denial is a powerful thing

Reply to Pika78 (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:45 PM

Apr 2016

Remember in 2012, when Mitt Romney was so convinced that he had won the presidential election that he actually had a transitional WH webpage made (which was accidentally put online for a few hours)?

(Looking at it still makes me want to gag): http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/7/1158664/-Romney-s-WH-Transition-Website-Surprise

The truth HURTS. These crazy men, and their handlers, never want to accept it. But in the end ... the truth will set you free. Or in this case, the truth will set the rest of us free!

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