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A question for this group (Original Post) Uben Apr 2016 OP
I do think Clinton will continue Obama's policies. IamMab Apr 2016 #1
Agree completely griffi94 Apr 2016 #27
I think with Hillary it will be pretty much the same. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #2
President Obama has been an excellent President and Hillary will build on that legacy.. Cha Apr 2016 #5
Yep. Sanders is all talk. Hillary is all work. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #10
Brilliant Graphic to depict what's goin' on here, BlueCaliDem! Cha Apr 2016 #11
Aw, thanks, Cha. I appreciate that. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #12
Yep! You've got that right! pandr32 Apr 2016 #24
What Sanders does is called showboating lol griffi94 Apr 2016 #28
100% Agree sarae Apr 2016 #39
It will only be the same if we don't give her a Democratic congress (preferably both House and BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #9
Great point about us needing a Democratic Congress, BlueCali.. and that's what Hillary Cha Apr 2016 #13
Exactly! And perhaps our gal needs to emphasize this at all her rallies: give me a Congress I can BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #14
Brilliant! Tweet her! It's got to be in our daily mantras and Hillary, too. I believe Cha Apr 2016 #17
LOL! I have. Two tweets, actually, since each tweet can't be more than friggin 140 characters. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #19
Excellent, Blue~ I love the way you can post those tweets Cha Apr 2016 #20
Believe it or not, I'm pretty new at tweeting. lol. I've had the account for 6 yrs, but never really BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #21
Awesome background info you have for the sale's pitch, Blue~ Cha Apr 2016 #23
Aw, thanks, Cha. I just don't want people to think I'm bsing when I make a point. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #25
So this isn't it.. I just googled on a chance.. but that seems too easy, right? Cha Apr 2016 #29
Thanks so much, Cha, but I don't believe it's him. I mean...Taylor Swift?? lol Otherwise, I would BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #32
Haha... thought not. If I ever see it for real I'll let you know. Cha Apr 2016 #33
Yes, she has said so.. many times and President Obama knows this, too. Cha Apr 2016 #3
Yes. Building on what exists is always easier. stopbush Apr 2016 #4
Especially if it's as good as what's existing for her when she goes into Office.. When Obama Cha Apr 2016 #6
Clinton will. Sanders won't. He made that pretty clear with his "revolution" speech, forgetting BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #7
It depends. She will certainly build on his domestic policies. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #8
Agree SharonClark Apr 2016 #31
I do think Hillary will continue Obama's policies rock Apr 2016 #15
Hillary Clinton has made it a point NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #16
Some great answers! Uben Apr 2016 #18
You're a good person. Thank you for the dual posts! Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #22
Just a long time democrat who likes to keep an open mind. Uben Apr 2016 #34
Makes perfect sense. I tried to have that conversation at the County Convention here in NV. Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #35
Yes. It's the primary reason she has my vote. lamp_shade Apr 2016 #26
Thank you Fla Dem for posting the issues link. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #30
"Perpetuate" is an odd word to use. It sounds a bit loaded. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #36
I think it's because we're all a bit gun shy DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #37
I believe Hillary will. Walk away Apr 2016 #38
 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
1. I do think Clinton will continue Obama's policies.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

I think she'll fight to get the remainder of the un-insured covered, that she'll maintain and expand on Obama's immigration policies, and otherwise continue working in a Democratic direction when it comes to policy.

But her policies will be HER policies, whether they're similar to Obama's or not.

Cha

(297,277 posts)
5. President Obama has been an excellent President and Hillary will build on that legacy..
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:56 AM
Apr 2016

BS isn't getting in so it's moot what he would do.

The President and SOS Hillary are Progressives.. they get things done. All berni does is talk.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
24. Yep! You've got that right!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:23 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders continually resubmits proposals that he knows won't ever be taken up as a form of protest. This is not being "progressive" or governing...at all. He is stuck in a rut and has been for decades.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
28. What Sanders does is called showboating lol
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:33 PM
Apr 2016

And then he claims his failure as some kind of moral victory

sarae

(3,284 posts)
39. 100% Agree
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:46 PM
Apr 2016

I think Obama has been a really good president. As sorry as I am to see him go, it'll be so exciting to have Hillary take his place.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. It will only be the same if we don't give her a Democratic congress (preferably both House and
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

Senate but Senate alone will be good enough for her first term). It will be hard but not impossible to, for example, expand ObamaCare to add a Public Option (which I prefer over Medicare-for-all) without both the House and Senate in Democratic hands.

That said, she can do a lot since Republicans, despite their public lamenting, respect her, not because she's like them but because she knows where the bodies are buried and which closets hold their skeletons - and has a reputation for not hesitating to use them. Ask Jon Cornyn who felt the painful sting when he, as the only hold-out on her confirmation as SoS, was told under no uncertain terms that the Clinton's have long memories. After returning to the hall, he cast a quick YEA-vote.

Cha

(297,277 posts)
13. Great point about us needing a Democratic Congress, BlueCali.. and that's what Hillary
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

and George Clooney and many others are raising money for.. BS isn't.

President Obama has done an amazing job without one but it will be so much better when we do have it for Hillary.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. Exactly! And perhaps our gal needs to emphasize this at all her rallies: give me a Congress I can
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

work with so I can get things done for you.

I believe I'll send her a tweet about that. I'm perplexed that although she's fundraising for down-ballot Democrats, she hasn't openly asked her supporters every chance she gets to vote for Democratic candidates and give her the Congress she needs in order to get the work done we expect of her. Sometimes, you have to ask for the sale in order to get it.

President Obama mentioned it quite a few times. President Bill Clinton only mentioned it during a rally where he was heckled by someone who condemned him for DOMA and DADT. He responded with, "Then you should've given me a Congress I could've worked with!"

I have the "The Hunting of a President" DVD that Joe Conason had made, and I watched it with fascination and that's where I saw and heard President Clinton say those words.

Cha

(297,277 posts)
17. Brilliant! Tweet her! It's got to be in our daily mantras and Hillary, too. I believe
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

George Clooney said that the Clinton Campaign needed to mention it more that fundraising is for a Democratic Congress, guys!

We've seen what the repubs do when they're in charge of the House and the Senate. President Obama can't even get his pick for SCOTUS nominee acknowledged by the hateful, mean-spirited do nothings.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
19. LOL! I have. Two tweets, actually, since each tweet can't be more than friggin 140 characters.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016


How do these look?

Cha

(297,277 posts)
20. Excellent, Blue~ I love the way you can post those tweets
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

on our message board after you tweet them.

I hope she gets them.. Robby Mook might be good, too.. & Brian Fallon.

Thank you! great pic!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
21. Believe it or not, I'm pretty new at tweeting. lol. I've had the account for 6 yrs, but never really
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

used it much. I'll be sure to send those tweets to Robby Mook and Brian Fallon, too. Sometimes, a campaign is so busy trying to organize rallies, pressers, and appearances on teevee in order to win that they forget the most fundamental aspect - asking for the sale.

Hubby is a top salesman and store manager at a high-end furniture store in downtown Pasadena. He's always astounded how his sales team can work a customer, show all the specs, the choices in wood, material, fabrics, origins, and spend hours drawing-up complex floorplans...only to not ask for the sale! And then the customer walks out. They often wonder why my husband sells on average $110,000 worth of furniture each and every month and each and every one of his customers actually buy.

"How do you do it?" they ask.

He answers, "You're doing all the right things, but when you see the customer is ready to buy, you drop the ball. Ask for the sale, and 9 out of 10 times, you'll get it. Guaranteed."

Cha

(297,277 posts)
23. Awesome background info you have for the sale's pitch, Blue~
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

That's fantastic that your hubby is so brilliant at what he does.. It's grand that you know how important this is and can pass on your knowledge to Hillary's campaign!

It's also interesting that George Clooney was giving them pointers, too.

Thank you!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
25. Aw, thanks, Cha. I just don't want people to think I'm bsing when I make a point.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

It's always helpful to give a bit of background.

Yes, hubby is very good at what he does, and he loves his job. He could sell sand to an Arab! No lie. lol

Yes, very interesting that George Clooney was giving Hillary's campaign hints, as well. As an actor, he knows how important it is to sell your brand to agents, PR people, and the public, but he also wants to ensure that people understand that she wasn't fundraising for herself but doing it for down-ballot Democrats.

Hillary is an excellent politician, meticulously organized (thanks in large part to our most famous community organizer) and she's a very hard worker, but she's not a natural salesperson. I hope they see my tweets, though, and we can change that. I sent Brian Fallon one but can't find Robby Mook's twitter account.

I'll keep trying, though.

Cha

(297,277 posts)
29. So this isn't it.. I just googled on a chance.. but that seems too easy, right?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

RM (@RobbyMook) | Twitter

https://twitter.com/robbymook

Thank you for all you do, Blue~





BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
32. Thanks so much, Cha, but I don't believe it's him. I mean...Taylor Swift?? lol Otherwise, I would
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:49 PM
Apr 2016

have definitely believed it was Mook's twitter account.

Thank you for all you do, Blue~


Thanks, Cha, and I do it with passion and love.

Cha

(297,277 posts)
3. Yes, she has said so.. many times and President Obama knows this, too.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

BS wouldn't but we don't have to worry about that because he's not winning the nom.

Obama has been an excellent President and he doesn't want to see his legacy torn apart. SOS Clinton will build on it.

Thank you, Uben.

Cha

(297,277 posts)
6. Especially if it's as good as what's existing for her when she goes into Office.. When Obama
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:02 AM
Apr 2016

went in they had to start from the abyss.

As you know, stillone~

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. Clinton will. Sanders won't. He made that pretty clear with his "revolution" speech, forgetting
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

that we're already experiencing a revolution under the Obama Administration - the Obama Revolution.

Hillary Clinton has said, time and again, that she'll continue with President Obama's policies and expand on them (they need expanding).

Fla Dem

(23,688 posts)
8. It depends. She will certainly build on his domestic policies.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

Foreign policy it's hard to say. Very complicated world, situations changing all the time. I don't believe she'll be an aggressive promoter of using troops in conflicts. Like Obama, I hope she takes the long view and not rush into conflicts.

Here's her position on some of the domestic issues.

An end to Alzheimer’s disease
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/alzheimers-disease/

Campaign finance reform
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/campaign-finance-reform/

Campus sexual assault
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/campus-sexual-assault/

Climate change and energy
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/college/

College
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

Criminal justice reform
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/criminal-justice-reform/

National security
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/national-security/

There's more here: a link to most of her positions.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/


I don't know about Bernie, he seems to be a my way or the highway type of politician. I would hope that IF he gets the nomination and is elected President, he will build on President Obama's legacy.

If HRC or BS win the presidency, it will be the 1st time since Roosevelt/Truman when we had back to back Democratic presidents (LBJ followed JFK but in total it was 8 years). Imagine what we can accomplish with 16 consecutive years of Progressives in the White House.

rock

(13,218 posts)
15. I do think Hillary will continue Obama's policies
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

Until something better comes along (and on an individual basis). Bernie, obviously no.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
16. Hillary Clinton has made it a point
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

to praise Obama and his policies, and to specifically say she intends to expand them if needed.

As for Sanders, it's a moot point; he won't win the nomination. However, I'd say no, he wouldn't. As someone said, it's his way or the highway. With his "revolution" the whole point is to basically start over. It's what his supporters want and he knows it. Anyone who disagrees is an oligarch, a 1%-er, a Third Wayer, etc.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
18. Some great answers!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

I posted this in both the Sanders and Clinton groups. For the most part, all have agreed that Obama has been a resounding success for our country...and I agree. This affirms my belief that whoever our nominee is, I'm voting for them.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
34. Just a long time democrat who likes to keep an open mind.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

We're all democrats (well, most of us) here, and I truly believe all want what's best for our country. We have differing ideas of what "best" might be, but all in all, we all want something better than what a republican would offer. Been here 15 yrs, so I have weathered a few primaries and prefer to remain on the perimeter until a nominee is selected. Peace.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
35. Makes perfect sense. I tried to have that conversation at the County Convention here in NV.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

Basically I framed it as, we're all trying to get to the same destination. We just want to take slightly different roads to get there. Peace to you as well.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
30. Thank you Fla Dem for posting the issues link.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

I was about to do so myself.

One thing I'd propose is that HRC is going to have a much more GLOBAL view of issues going in than even President Obama did.

I'd say, 'how could she not?' Her husband was a president, she was a senator, she was secretary of state who traveled the globe, and the Clinton Foundation has a global presence. She is who we need in this time.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
36. "Perpetuate" is an odd word to use. It sounds a bit loaded.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:24 PM
Apr 2016

It's almost as if the question pre-assumes, or wants to slyly suggest, that Obama's policies are bad, or that they've somehow failed.

But it could just be my imagination and I'm reading too much into things.

Or am I?

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
37. I think it's because we're all a bit gun shy
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:34 PM
Apr 2016

Especially after having been stalked relentlessly within our own group for months.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
38. I believe Hillary will.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016

If Bernie want's to somehow do the same for Vermont, I suppose he can try. I don't think Senators have much say except for one vote on a national level.

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