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Related: About this forumObama's campaign manager suggests Sanders is committing "fraud"
...by insisting he can win and continuing to solicit campaign donations.
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/politics/obama-campaign-manager-says-bernie-sanders-is-committing-fraud-by-pretending-he-can-win/24558/
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)been saying.. but, here's David Plouffe saying it!
Mahalo~
pandr32
(11,584 posts)At this point he is deliberately damaging the presumptive nominee and causing trouble we can not afford.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Sahil Kapur
✔ ??@sahilkapur
Sanders to supporters on losing NY: It elected Clinton senator twice, hes still winning delegates, hope isn't lost.
5:07 PM - 19 Apr 2016
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https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/19/tweets-of-the-day-51/#comments
Mahalo, pandr
pandr32
(11,584 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... separating people from their money under false pretenses is fraud. It doesn't matter if the victims are gullible or smart ... it's still fraud.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)The campaign has turned into a swindle. Hopefully the FEC will come down hard on him.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)pandr32
(11,584 posts)...is becoming a problem that will not be tolerated. Sanders seems to want to undermine our democratic system, and our Democrat Party, for his own gain. What he is doing, unless he sharply veers course right away, is not going to be put up with. We cannot afford to indulge Sanders and his fantasy about being a leader of a revolution any longer.
As for the rest of those politicians you made reference to--things will change with new campaign finance laws, an FEC that steps in, and a strong Justice Department. We are slowly transforming away from the political shenanigans of late as the Republicans blow themselves up and the first of charges are being laid in Flint.
progressoid
(49,990 posts)Or how about the Kent State football team. How dare they charge an admission fee when it's not going to end well.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)And I believe he does know. Yes, he has a gigantic ego, but he's not stupid. He's playing his young supporters like a
pandr32
(11,584 posts)Exactly!
SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)Thread winner- -best use of violin smilie evaaah!
sarae
(3,284 posts)Does anyone know? It seems crazy that he continues to raise money at this point. But what happens to all the money he's raised if he does drop out now?
pandr32
(11,584 posts)Perhaps he will back another candidate, or run again...ha-ha! Oops...not funny
lol, please no, anything but the last one...
pandr32
(11,584 posts)...to kinda save face.
He might come out and "suspend his campaign" after giving it some careful consideration--saying something like the threat of the Republicans taking the White House and Congress is just too grave. He may say that he will work against them in any way he can, in the immediate sense that means helping Clinton win, but that he will fight on in the Senate and will pick up the fight for the White House again in 2020. He will vow to carry the torch that has been resoundingly given him through his enormous grass roots movement, or something like that.
You can bet that behind the scenes right now there are many important people pushing him to knock off the avoidable damage he is doing the Party right now, and that he will have to accept defeat and support Hillary Clinton. Sooner is better than later, but he will be defiant for a while longer because--well, he is that kind of guy.
savalez
(3,517 posts)he can donate it to Charity.
Oh wait, he doesn't believe in Charity.
Or he can use it to support other candidates.
Oh wait, so far he has not shown a desire to help other candidates.
Maybe he's trying to at least win the fund raising game so he can go out feeling like he's on top.
I was thinking that he might try to take another extravagant trip. After all, didn't he use campaign funds to pay for his Vatican trip?
Or maybe he'll try to bribe Superdelegates...oh wait, I forgot he hates it when people try to "Buy elections".
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Have you seen the predictions for the remaining primary states???? It's going to be a massacre! The longer he stays in to be beaten down, the less likely the Millennials will stick around.
The problem with that is, if he keeps scrounging for $$$ and doesn't deliver anything but failure, he will be completely useless to us. Without his Followers and their campaign contributions, he's just a dried up loser. His "Faithful" are just a bunch of Naderites who will never vote for Hillary anyway.
I think the clock is ticking for him and as it ticks he will be losing state after state.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)Look how he suddenly took off to his home and stranded his assigned press people at the airport in Pennsylvania after flying them there in the first place. He has a temper and a huge ego. Not a great combination. He will not take losing well, especially when he needs blow-outs in his favor.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)It will be interesting to see how he handles it. He must be spending a fortune this week but it only seems to work on low population states without POC.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)And not so wonderful for Sanders and his supporters.
But we will be dancing!
LisaM
(27,811 posts)How many times have we seen - often after a loss, or after some statement Hillary's made - everyone rushing to their phones to donate $27?
I bet who's ever attempting to keep the financial records of all this straight is probably ready to throw all the receipts in the air at this point. They're addicted to going to their phones and donating over and over and over, as if that's some special accomplishment. And then they can go on Reddit or DU or wherever and proudly proclaim that they donated to Bernie.
savalez
(3,517 posts)$28 sounds like too much. $26 is just weird. I've got it! $27!
LisaM
(27,811 posts)With the $2700 cap...
savalez
(3,517 posts)I'm just having a bit of fun.
LisaM
(27,811 posts)I know, if they donate $10, they can rush to the phone 270 times! And the accountant - I hope it's not Jane - can just pull a blanket over her head.
nini
(16,672 posts)The fact people don't see this is not ethical is amazing.
brush
(53,778 posts)He's securing his family's future the longer Sanders stays in the race.
Weaver probably as well. No wonder this campaign is still going on.
nini
(16,672 posts)disgusting.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)There are hefty commissions paid for each one. Jane does some, it is a perk after all, and so do others like Weaver and Devine (all on top of fat salaries). That is a good way to launder campaign money and keep it for personal use. Sanders campaign is outspending in ads at least 2-1 in each State (Nevada was even higher).
Their expenses are over-the-top, as well. That flight with extended family to Rome (did you see the sample menu? ), the hotels, catering, fancy restaurants, expensive clothes, motorcades (do they get to keep any of the vehicles?), spa pampering to look good, etc., are all billable to the campaign.
It is the good life Sanders and his family are living now. They will certainly be rich from now on, too. The Clintons made most of their millions from book sales. I would not be surprised if book deals were not already in the works for the Sanders clan.
nini
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they make me want to barf -
Ha-ha!
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)have quite a few cases that would have to be tried equally ....sounds more like a threat to me and I would hope Clinton would refuse to pay the idiot who thought this one up...
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)a ton of money and seem to be happy to take the money and continuing enriching themselves.