Hillary Clinton

MrWendel

(1,881 posts) Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:32 PM Apr 2016

Charles M. Blow: What is Sanders's Endgame?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/opinion/campaign-stops/what-is-sanderss-endgame.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=1

By Charles M. Blow

Hillary Clinton’s commanding victory in New York on Tuesday put yet another nail in the coffin of Bernie Sanders’s candidacy.

As The Upshot’s Nate Cohn put it:

“New York, like every contest at this stage, was a state he needed to win. The result confirms that he is on track to lose the pledged delegate race and therefore the nomination.”

At this pace, Clinton will finish this nomination cycle having won more votes, more states and more pledged delegates than Sanders. Furthermore, Clinton has also won six of the nine general election swing states that The New York Times listed in 2012.

And yet Sanders soldiers on, as is his right.

But Tuesday, Sanders’s campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, told MSNBC that if Clinton doesn’t clinch the nomination by pledged delegates alone, even if she has won the most popular votes, pledged delegates and states, Sanders will still take his fight to the convention. Sanders will “absolutely” try to turn superdelegates, who overwhelmingly support Clinton, and win the nomination that way.

First, barring something unforeseen and unimaginable, there is no way I can see that this strategy stands a gnat’s chance in hell of coming to fruition. It’s a fairy tale written in pixie dust.

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Charles M. Blow: What is Sanders's Endgame? (Original Post) MrWendel Apr 2016 OP

She will have the required pledged delegates plus, with some 1400 delegates Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #1

My favorite part savalez Apr 2016 #2

Mine too, savalez.. I was just coming to post it to somebody.. Cha Apr 2016 #15

KNR Lucinda Apr 2016 #3

I think we'll be seeing more and more of this NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #4

The media is over "He has a narrow path to victory" and have moved on to "when will he... Walk away Apr 2016 #5

That is what happens... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #6

What a Pro! Walk away Apr 2016 #7

Every single reporter must have heard about that pandr32 Apr 2016 #10

Perhaps he went home to BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #11

K&R! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #8

weaver reveals sanders' TRUE opinion of democracy - votes and delegates dont count nt msongs Apr 2016 #9

K & R SunSeeker Apr 2016 #12

The last 2 paragraphs are the best Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #13

"First, barring something unforeseen and unimaginable, there is no way I can see that this strategy Cha Apr 2016 #14

Personally, I think his "endgame" is to beat her up so badly that she'll be a weakened GE candidate. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #16

You know what? If he really is like that, this is where I HOPE the so-called Clinton Machine... Hekate Apr 2016 #17

I could not agree more. It's time. Hillary has run a very positive and upbeat campaign so far, but Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #18

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

1. She will have the required pledged delegates plus, with some 1400 delegates

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:37 PM

Apr 2016

Left she will get over half, Sanders will be short.

savalez

(3,517 posts)

2. My favorite part

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:38 PM

Apr 2016

there is no way I can see that this strategy stands a gnat’s chance in hell of coming to fruition. It’s a fairy tale written in pixie dust.

Cha

(297,275 posts)

15. Mine too, savalez.. I was just coming to post it to somebody..

Reply to savalez (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:22 AM

Apr 2016

And, there it is.. ".. no way I can see this strategy stands a gnat's chance in hell of coming to fruition. It's a fairy tale written in pixie dust."

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)

3. KNR

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:38 PM

Apr 2016

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)

4. I think we'll be seeing more and more of this

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:49 PM

Apr 2016

after April 26.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

5. The media is over "He has a narrow path to victory" and have moved on to "when will he...

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:50 PM

Apr 2016

stop attacking Hillary Clinton so she can concentrate on beating Trump?".

I believe next Tuesday is going to hit him really hard. I don't think that he realizes that, as he starts to sink, he will shed followers.
When you lose the press, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)

6. That is what happens...

Reply to Walk away (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:09 PM

Apr 2016

when you leave your entire press corp stranded in a state so that you can go home to Vermont and not answer questions.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

7. What a Pro!

Reply to SaschaHM (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:14 PM

Apr 2016

And I mean that with the utmost

pandr32

(11,586 posts)

10. Every single reporter must have heard about that

Reply to SaschaHM (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:28 PM

Apr 2016

He will have no friends in the press corps now.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)

11. Perhaps he went home to

Reply to SaschaHM (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:22 PM

Apr 2016

get the 2015 tax returns.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)

8. K&R!

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:14 PM

Apr 2016

msongs

(67,413 posts)

9. weaver reveals sanders' TRUE opinion of democracy - votes and delegates dont count nt

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:38 PM

Apr 2016

SunSeeker

(51,560 posts)

12. K & R

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:59 PM

Apr 2016

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)

13. The last 2 paragraphs are the best

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:50 PM

Apr 2016

Sanders has to figure out how he lands this doomed plane — does he set it down easy so that everyone walks away relatively unscathed, or does he go out in a blaze of glory?

Whatever he chooses to do will say quite a bit about his allegiance to his adopted Democratic Party and about his character. At the end of the day, is his ethos greater than his ego?

Cha

(297,275 posts)

14. "First, barring something unforeseen and unimaginable, there is no way I can see that this strategy

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:20 AM

Apr 2016

stands a gnat’s chance in hell of coming to fruition. It’s a fairy tale written in pixie dust."

And, there it is.. ".. no way I can see this strategy stands a gnat's chance in hell of coming to fruition. It's a fairy tale written in pixie dust."

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)

16. Personally, I think his "endgame" is to beat her up so badly that she'll be a weakened GE candidate.

Reply to MrWendel (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:07 AM

Apr 2016

I've read personal accounts of people who know BS, and I gather that he's a vindictive ass. If he can't win the nomination, he & his surrogates will try to take out the one who can.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)

17. You know what? If he really is like that, this is where I HOPE the so-called Clinton Machine...

Reply to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:13 AM

Apr 2016

... just shows up and tears him and his closest advisors a new one.

The Bros just keep whining about the Clinton Machine and how dastardly and mean they are -- well, if he and they really do look like what they want is to destroy the Party and Hillary, this would be the time ...

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)

18. I could not agree more. It's time. Hillary has run a very positive and upbeat campaign so far, but

Reply to Hekate (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:21 PM

Apr 2016

it's clear that BS & Crew are now trying to draw blood, and I say....an eye for eye.

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