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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:45 AM Apr 2016

This comes as Clinton is backing off a little.

The small minded Sanders never learns. Shameful!


Dan Merica ?@danmericaCNN 5h5 hours ago

Dan Merica Retweeted Peter Nicholas

This comes as Clinton is backing off a little. http://cnn.it/1SyQFgO









Clinton takes her foot off the gas on Sanders after New York win

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By Dan Merica, CNN

Updated 10:41 PM ET, Thu April 21, 2016



Clinton didn't take any shots at Sanders during her first post-New York rally on Wednesday night


Hartford, Connecticut (CNN)Hillary Clinton is trading her direct attacks against Bernie Sanders ahead of this week's New York primary for a softer touch.



Clinton didn't take any shots at Sanders during her first post-New York rally on Wednesday night, instead delivering her standard stump speech and casting the April 26 primaries in Pennsylvania, Delaware, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Maryland as a "great opportunity to start us on the path to the White House."
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Clinton continued the hands-off approach toward Sanders on Thursday in Connecticut, when she headlined a roundtable on gun violence, a topic the former secretary of state has long used to discredit the Vermont senator, whose record on guns is more conservative than much of the Democratic electorate.


Clinton only mentioned Sanders once during the event, knocking him for voting in favor of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005, a bill that gave gun manufacturers and sellers protection from liability if their products are used in killings.


"We had a vote on it. I was in the Senate. I voted against it. My opponent, Sen. Sanders, voted for it and what that has done is to basically prevent anyone, like families from Sandy Hook, like families from the Aurora movie theater murders, from trying to inject some common-sense requirements that people who make and sell guns be held to," Clinton told the audience in Hartford. Sanders has said he does not think victims of gun violence should be able to sue manufacturers and sellers................



Bernie Sanders Renews Attacks on Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/04/2 ... nsylvania/

By Peter Nicholas
Apr 21, 2016 6:33 pm ET


Is Bernie backing down after the drubbing he got in New York?

Not so much.

Two days after he lost the New York primary to Hillary Clinton, a feisty Bernie Sanders showed up in Pennsylvania and renewed his now-familiar attacks on the Democratic front-runner.


Mr. Sanders told an audience in Reading, Pa., that Mrs. Clinton is benefiting from super PACs raising millions of dollars from Wall Street firms and “special interests.” In a mocking tone, he took aim at her for delivering paid speeches to Wall Street at $225,000 a pop in some cases.

And he called on her to release the speech transcripts, sarcastically saying that she should be eager to let the public read texts so eloquent that they commanded such high fees.

“Now, I kind of think if you’re going to get $225,000 for a speech, it must be a brilliant, insightful, world-shattering speech, don’t you think?” Mr. Sanders said. “It must be a speech that would probably solve all of the crises facing our planet and then some. And it was probably written in Shakespearean prose.

“And I think a speech of that extraordinary magnitude should be shared with the American people.”
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Mr. Sanders’s address in Reading shows he is not ready to back off. The audience relished his critique, booing Mrs. Clinton’s name...............

He denounced a campaign finance system that relies on “billionaires” and “Wall Street” and “big-money interests.”

“I’m proud we have run a campaign without a super PAC and without their money,” Mr. Sanders added. “Secretary Clinton has chosen to raise money in a different way – with several super PACs,” he said.
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This comes as Clinton is backing off a little. (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2016 OP
It's bound to backfire! Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #1
three month old stump speech lol. not what one would call an adaptable person nt msongs Apr 2016 #2
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #3
That answers that question. And many of his staunch media allies are backing away from him Lucinda Apr 2016 #4
She can put him in her rearview griffi94 Apr 2016 #5
Wahwahwahwahwah.. that's all BS ever does. Hillary is going to be President and Cha Apr 2016 #6
Second that quickesst Apr 2016 #9
And, bully.. his way into the presidency.. not working, bernie. Cha Apr 2016 #12
Heh... quickesst Apr 2016 #13
What else could Sanders talk about? He has no plans. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #8
Whoa, Bernie is now channeling Trump! Haveadream Apr 2016 #10
I think he might team up with Trump Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #30
His ads here Treant Apr 2016 #11
Bernie continues with his tired laugh lines. oasis Apr 2016 #14
well... sarae Apr 2016 #15
She sees where the campaign is, sees where the voting is going. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #16
Keep trying to "flip" those Supers Bernie. leftofcool Apr 2016 #17
The spectacle of a septuagenarian presidential candidate Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #18
+1 sarae Apr 2016 #21
The parallels between their campaigns are disquieting--especially the deranged hero-worship. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #22
BS is No Democrat liberal N proud Apr 2016 #19
grrrr sarae Apr 2016 #20
From now on sarae Apr 2016 #23
Let's try it out...."Today in the news, Trump surrogate Brenie Sanders ranted bitterly....." Walk away Apr 2016 #31
lol sarae Apr 2016 #34
K&R mcar Apr 2016 #24
So very sick of his sarcasm. So very sick of his stump speech. n/t livetohike Apr 2016 #25
Yes, and his constant mocking. Sickening. riversedge Apr 2016 #26
Let's see how this plays out after Tuesday... apcalc Apr 2016 #27
Release the taxes!! Her Sister Apr 2016 #28
I don't think that Hillary has to engage with someone who she has already beaten. Walk away Apr 2016 #29
Hillary is definitely BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #32
On top of all that is the fact that he is losing and that, more than anything else... Walk away Apr 2016 #33
I guess he needs stronger intervention pandr32 Apr 2016 #35

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
1. It's bound to backfire!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

She looks classy, Presidential and above the fray and he looks like a sore loser wining about wining by super delegates.

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Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
4. That answers that question. And many of his staunch media allies are backing away from him
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:52 AM
Apr 2016

Tuesday is gonna be rough for Bernie.

Cha

(297,322 posts)
6. Wahwahwahwahwah.. that's all BS ever does. Hillary is going to be President and
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:04 AM
Apr 2016

whatever is going to lose.

BS should be proud of nothing.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
9. Second that
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:16 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie thinks he can cry, piss, moan, and groan his way to the presidency. Not the best strategy, but one his supporters have clearly embraced.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
7. What else could Sanders talk about? He has no plans.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:12 AM
Apr 2016

Once he states his pie in the sky wish list, what is there left for him to talk about? Sanders loves the audience reaction when he starts bashing Hillary--he just keeps stoking those boos. Much like Trump feeds off his audience booing Hillary.

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Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
10. Whoa, Bernie is now channeling Trump!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

Using derision and sarcasm is an extremely bad approach for someone who is losing. It makes them look small, petty and vengeful.

Oh, wait...

He is.

Bernie has every opportunity to save his legacy and credibility for the remainder of the primary. I thought he might have been able to see the big picture when he took some time off in VT. Apparently not. For a guy short on details, not being able to see the best way to make things work out makes him doubly incompetent.

Fail, Bernie. Fail.


Treant

(1,968 posts)
11. His ads here
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:22 AM
Apr 2016

in PA reflect that as well; he's got one claiming he accepts no big money support (untrue, of course), and that anybody who is (implication: Clinton) is bought and paid for.

It's not resonating. Even though I've now heard it about 300 times...

sarae

(3,284 posts)
15. well...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:20 AM
Apr 2016

I guess that answers the question of whether he'll play nice now. WTF is he doing? It seems like his sole purpose is to try and damage the Dem party's chances in November. I've lost all my respect for him. Maybe he's surrounded by so many young adoring fans that he's lost sight of his original goal. He's turning out to be a YUGE hypocrite.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. She sees where the campaign is, sees where the voting is going.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:29 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders needs a larger percentage of votes and Hillary moves ever closer to the required delegate count.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. The spectacle of a septuagenarian presidential candidate
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:43 AM
Apr 2016

stamping his feet and bawling like a two-year-old inspires neither confidence nor respect.

He desperately needs more media-savvy advice. He's rapidly destroying whatever credibility he once had.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
20. grrrr
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:51 AM
Apr 2016

I'm so sick of BS. He acts so entitled. Morning Joe were just talking about him and (surprise!) Joe Scarborough the Republican was defending him. He claims that Bernie has no reason to get out and stop attacking Hillary because he has nothing to lose. Mike Barnicle even said (I'm paraphrasing here), "He's a fully grown 74 year old Socialist male – he's going to speak up because his goal is to change the way the party functions and he has nothing to lose at this point." What the hell does "he's a fully grown Socialist male" have to do with the price of beans?? They think Bernie's not doing damage to her because he's not saying anything the Repubs won't say. Only one sane person spoke up and said, "The notion that he's not doing damage to her is absolutely ridiculous." Trump's already quoting Bernie in his anti-Hillary attacks.

If it were the other way around, can you imagine how outraged people would be that Hillary not only refused to bow out, but continued to attack BS? Again, a double standard for women. People were enraged that she even wanted to run (how dare she?!) – if she did what BS did, they'd be calling for her head. When there's no path to victory, what is his end goal? To do as much damage as possible before November??

sarae

(3,284 posts)
23. From now on
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:30 AM
Apr 2016

I'm just going to call Bernie a Trump surrogate; that's the role he's playing. What's the difference? With no path to victory, he's just doing Trump's dirty work for him.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
31. Let's try it out...."Today in the news, Trump surrogate Brenie Sanders ranted bitterly....."
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:18 AM
Apr 2016

Yup, that sounds about right. I think your have really hit on something. I will do the same going forward...Thanks!

sarae

(3,284 posts)
34. lol
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016

no problem! It's true...I wonder if BS even cares who gets elected in November, if he's not a contender.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
29. I don't think that Hillary has to engage with someone who she has already beaten.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:14 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie can only become smaller and more bitter looking as the days and primaries go on.

I think he should stay in as I am sure he has hit his ceiling of popularity as far as actual voters are concerned and, if he isn't going to fall in line, he should be allowed the time to self implode.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
32. Hillary is definitely
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:34 AM
Apr 2016

showing her class as the Adult in the Room and I believe that you have summed things up nicely.

If he continues as he has been, all he will end up doing is to hurt himself politically and personally. Scales are falling from many people's eyes with these tactics and Bernie's residual goodwill is heading towards negative territory.

His recent tactics are neither effective nor are they intelligent. They certainly do not reflect qualities that I want to see in a President.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
33. On top of all that is the fact that he is losing and that, more than anything else...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:45 AM
Apr 2016

is going to take the shine off of him. He will go back to having nothing to offer and his followers will have to look elsewhere for empty promises.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
35. I guess he needs stronger intervention
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

Perhaps after Tuesday when Hillary cleans his clock--again.

Maybe he will begin to realize that if he continues with his lies and smears it is he who will be hated. He has managed to convince a lot of young people that Hillary is a monster, but they will begin to see for themselves that she is a strong, competent leader and change their minds once she becomes POTUS. They will see, in retrospect, that they were deliberately lied to.

The others? A bunch of disgruntled losers--they will hardly be a base worth any effort at all and will go on blaming and believing in conspiracies and tin foil hat stuff and waiting for the next Nader, Ron Paul, or Sanders to come along and wake everyone else up to their views.

Sanders will go down in history as a loser.

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