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Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:32 PM Apr 2016

Chris Matthews's is demolishing Jeff Weaver! *HRC Group*

He took him to the shed for making unfounded accusations against Secretary Clinton, called him out for not being able to provide not one example of where HRC's integrity was compromised due to a contribution. Weaver could not name one, he just kept repeating access.

It's a barn burner! When the link uploads later today I will edit to add, however I would not be surprised if MSNBC does not replay most of the segment through the evening on Maddow and Hayes.

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Chris Matthews's is demolishing Jeff Weaver! *HRC Group* (Original Post) Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 OP
It was WONDERFUL to see! lunamagica Apr 2016 #1
I enjoyed it immensely. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #20
That guy gets paid $800,000 a MONTH just JanetLovesObama Apr 2016 #2
I think you're thinking of Devine. spooky3 Apr 2016 #6
Well... sarae Apr 2016 #10
Yeah, I wonder how much BS pays Weaver to be an a$$? Cha Apr 2016 #12
Answers here: Her Sister Apr 2016 #16
Thanks, HS.. Cha Apr 2016 #18
Weaver's tactics remind me of 90's Rove. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #21
Exactly, Gary. Team BS stole the goplaybook 101.. you know it worked so well for Cha Apr 2016 #26
*wink Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #28
Ed Rendell didn't help with his wishy-washy advocacy. stopbush Apr 2016 #3
i thought it was great that he said DesertFlower Apr 2016 #24
Good for Chris! Sleaziest campaign managers ever. livetohike Apr 2016 #4
Bernie set the tone. That's his attack, that implied corruption smear Rose Siding Apr 2016 #8
Damn Straight.. BS/managers/surrogats/fans. Cha Apr 2016 #14
+1 Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #22
And they try to act like sarae Apr 2016 #13
What is it with the way Weaver speaks? He reminds me of Cheney, stopbush Apr 2016 #5
HAHA sarae Apr 2016 #7
LOL@"Go back to your comic book shop, bro." Cha Apr 2016 #15
I was pleasantly surprised sarae Apr 2016 #19
Weaver's last line about the soda tax was hysterical. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #23
What did he say? I know nothing. Cha Apr 2016 #29
Sanders could not provide a single example last week during the debate when Hillary asked him riversedge Apr 2016 #9
It's hilarious sarae Apr 2016 #11
Oh, but he didn't because he is too much of a genteman...really, that's what someone lunamagica Apr 2016 #35
I don't see why Sanders and his team continues to say there must be something in her Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #17
Agree 100% sarae Apr 2016 #25
if she said something wrong i would think someone DesertFlower Apr 2016 #27
I am beginning to think many have not been exposed to a lot, it shows huh. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #31
even if she said something terrible, that's still not a quid pro quo spooky3 Apr 2016 #38
exactly. nt DesertFlower Apr 2016 #66
Because they think it works with their Cha Apr 2016 #50
Yes, count them, Hillary is ahead 2.7 million, here's your sign. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #52
Good one, Thinkingabout! eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #61
The old rove trick, repeat something long enough and people will believe it, even if it still_one Apr 2016 #30
Cognitive dissonance, it is prominent in the libertarian world. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #32
That's their speed. Cha Apr 2016 #33
Actually Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #42
Also, you preemptively project your own faults on your opponent stopbush Apr 2016 #45
Dang I missed it. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #34
You can see it (or recod it) later toningt. Harball has an encore at 2:AM ET (I think) lunamagica Apr 2016 #36
I just checked and it's not, they have prison & other shows. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #39
At 10 Tonight They Are Airing otohara Apr 2016 #43
Yes, I just noticed that. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #44
Yeah, I just noticed...seems they start their weekend line up at midninght lunamagica Apr 2016 #46
Three cheers to the fact that... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #37
Got a link yet? nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #40
I've been watching, not yet. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #41
Kick! Hekate Apr 2016 #47
Google Hillary Goldman Sachs YouTube phyllis irene Apr 2016 #48
Welcome to DU & Hill's Group, PI~ Great post.. Mahalo! Cha Apr 2016 #49
Hi phyllis irene, I too want to say welcome! Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #51
Welcome to the HRC Group and DU, Phyllis. What a great Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #54
Congratulations on your BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #63
Here the video: Weaver on Hardball w Chris Matthews Her Sister Apr 2016 #53
Bless you, Sis. I've been waiting for this... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #55
oooo DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #56
Jeff Weaver is trying to hold onto his job for dear life, or it's back to the comic book store Fla Dem Apr 2016 #57
So basically Weaver said nothing but made him look like more of an arrogant fool that we thought. George II Apr 2016 #62
What a weasel. Lucinda Apr 2016 #65
In the meantime ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ Her Sister Apr 2016 #58
Good for Tweety SharonClark Apr 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Apr 2016 #60
Chris did a good job Bluerome Apr 2016 #64

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
21. Weaver's tactics remind me of 90's Rove.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:14 PM
Apr 2016

Keep repeating something over and over again, force the accused to defend themselves without ever having had any evidence to substantiate.

Cha

(297,307 posts)
26. Exactly, Gary. Team BS stole the goplaybook 101.. you know it worked so well for
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

them. And, burnie certainly can't run on his own record just like they can't.

Thank you for the OP!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
3. Ed Rendell didn't help with his wishy-washy advocacy.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:37 PM
Apr 2016

He really is useless. I think Tweets has him on because he's from PA like Tweets.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
24. i thought it was great that he said
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016

he has collected more campaign money than anyone -- but has never given a favor and would take a lie detector test.

rendell also said sanders is hurting the democratic party with his comments. he was a hillary supporter back in '08 too. tweety used to have him on all the time back then. referred to him back then as the charles durning of politics -- a big beefy guy.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
5. What is it with the way Weaver speaks? He reminds me of Cheney,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:40 PM
Apr 2016

who always sounded like he was choking on blood while speaking. Weaver has something similar going on.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
7. HAHA
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:43 PM
Apr 2016

I just saw that! Jeff Weaver is such a lying asshat. I loved it when Chris Matthews said, "So you think she's guilty until proven innocent?" Go back to your comic book shop, bro.

Cha

(297,307 posts)
15. LOL@"Go back to your comic book shop, bro."
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016
Good one from Tweety.. bet weaver wasn't expecting that!

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
9. Sanders could not provide a single example last week during the debate when Hillary asked him
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

on National TV either. Weaver does not learn.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
11. It's hilarious
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:00 PM
Apr 2016

watching him sputter trying to answer the question. And when Matthews said he was implying that HRC is corrupt, he kept acting like they weren't. As if they're above that. RIGHT.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
35. Oh, but he didn't because he is too much of a genteman...really, that's what someone
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

said to defend him.

That has to be the most idiotic excuse ever!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. I don't see why Sanders and his team continues to say there must be something in her
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:11 PM
Apr 2016

Speeches which will tie her to a vote, etc when it is plain Sanders is the one who rewarded the NRA more than once with votes. Why does he continue to show it is Hillary who is influenced, it is Sanders who is influenced.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
27. if she said something wrong i would think someone
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:19 PM
Apr 2016

from goldman sachs would leak it. obviously the speech was given to employees. when my late husband worked for IBM they used to have famous people as guest speakers at events.

so she got paid a lot -- they obviously thought she was worth it.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
38. even if she said something terrible, that's still not a quid pro quo
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:53 PM
Apr 2016

If they want to accuse her of being bought, they need to show how her voting behavior changed in ways to favor GS after the speech(es).

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
45. Also, you preemptively project your own faults on your opponent
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:12 PM
Apr 2016

so when they point out the actual fault in you, you can pretend that your opponent is engaging in a false equvalency.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
36. You can see it (or recod it) later toningt. Harball has an encore at 2:AM ET (I think)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

Really, it's worth seeing! You'll LOVE it

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
39. I just checked and it's not, they have prison & other shows.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:20 PM
Apr 2016

MSNBC programming really sucks on weekends.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
43. At 10 Tonight They Are Airing
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

a couple of specials one on Trump and Clinton instead of the prison crap.

Pretty sure...

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
46. Yeah, I just noticed...seems they start their weekend line up at midninght
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:27 PM
Apr 2016

They do encores from Monday to Thursday...My mistake.

Too bad the segment was so good it deserved to be shown again.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
41. I've been watching, not yet.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:34 PM
Apr 2016

MSNBC has a 24 hour turnaround time for transcripts, I wonder if it's the same for footage?

phyllis irene

(1 post)
48. Google Hillary Goldman Sachs YouTube
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:36 AM
Apr 2016

Chris did a great GREAT job shredding Jeff Weaver &-exposing their total circular insular argument &-the dishonor in it. Even Warren qualified her claims, they were twisted too.

WHY is this video not circulating? I first saw it early March. It's a 12 minute thank you talk as these events, boring but informative report go to private but yes rich donors to a already successful Global Initiative program for 10,000 international women entrepreneurs, harmless. There are generous rich people, where are they to meet, the street? Get real. A long-time follower of Hillary, raised activist in DC/MD from W NC I see, Robin Hood-ette. I have a friend who gave her last welfare to Bernie. Is that more moral?

I.myself am no longer enamored of this reverse snobbery guru business. I loved Bernie last year, we donated. I too joined SNCC at American U, am still an educated activist, but we learned to focus on getting folks to REGISTER to VOTE, protest "Etiquette" of MLK Jr. PRIME DIRECTIVES Sanders seems to have forgotten. & the DNC has not, but has always pushed for expanded voting rights,since supporting the civil rights movement.

I don't see Sanders pushing Hillary more left on.anything. She's in the same forward direction she's always been, just able to reveal it more with this whole campaign dynamic, pretty well-prepared for the GOP.

Americans, humans, have a schizophrenic affair with money, we LOVE it, we HATE it. We want the things, but not the stuff that may be attached. Bernie seems to have the same jealousy. No law can resolve that completely, no.amount of pointing & grouchy yelling. Never has in HISTORY. So this is a false premise, let alone totally unjust, as Chris showed. Bless his heart.

Go Chris! Logical & honestly & legitimately tenacious! Great debate! Ed Rendell too. Will Weaver aka Sanders take it to heart? Didn't seem so at all. I've been getting hardcore I-won't-vote-for-Hillary-under-any-circumstances notes all day.from.actual friends. Sad.

Cha

(297,307 posts)
49. Welcome to DU & Hill's Group, PI~ Great post.. Mahalo!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:04 AM
Apr 2016

I like your analysis.. feel pretty much the same way except I never liked sanders.

He wanted President Obama primaried in 2012 ".. because millions were disappointed".. turns our Millions more NOT disappointed in our President... and burnie's whine didn't help.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
51. Hi phyllis irene, I too want to say welcome!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:52 AM
Apr 2016

What a great post of yours and thoughtful too! I've found that with the friends of mine that are (and some of them were) supporting Sander's, it's just going to take a little time. I've been trying to provide as much space as possible to them, it seems to be working. Most of them are beginning to understand that all the attacks on HRC, after all these years, strengthen her in many ways.

Thanks again and welcome!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
54. Welcome to the HRC Group and DU, Phyllis. What a great
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:27 AM
Apr 2016

first post. Enjoyed reading your personal story of awakening to the BS of BS' "revolution".

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
63. Congratulations on your
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

first post and welcome to DU!

It was a wonderful first post.

You won't be getting any of those hardcore notes from those of us here!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
55. Bless you, Sis. I've been waiting for this...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:30 AM
Apr 2016

Epic take-down by Mathews. Cringe-worthy weasel-words by Weaver.

Fla Dem

(23,690 posts)
57. Jeff Weaver is trying to hold onto his job for dear life, or it's back to the comic book store
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:56 AM
Apr 2016

This is the one thing they keep going after and have yet to cite ONE example where Sec. Clinton was influenced by the big banks. Bernie Sanders is a desperate candidate, trying to keep those $27 contributions coming in from his mesmerized fans.

George II

(67,782 posts)
62. So basically Weaver said nothing but made him look like more of an arrogant fool that we thought.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:08 AM
Apr 2016

And he essentially called Rendell a liar.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
58. In the meantime ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ ~ RELEASE THE TAXES!!!!~ EOM.

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