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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 10:44 AM Nov 2014

I have to admit I thought that I did not think it would get this ugly so soon here. HRC Room Post.

HILLARY CLINTON ROOM POST. SOP of the room is; Discuss the life, career, and accomplishments of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Supporters only. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=about&forum=1107

Done as a courtesy. This room is for supporters of HRC.


I had an idea that supporting Hillary Clinton was going to be hard here but I never thought this hard. I just don't get this. If you listen to some here she is as right as your average republican in the USA. Yesterday it was said that the Clintons were happy that we lost the senate even though both of them gave their hearts and time to the 2014 senate candidates.

Yesterday I saw it said that Clinton supporters are baiting non-Hillary supporters to break the SOP which is complete bullshit! Also it was said that some of us are third way paid shills. First off I am not third way nor am I getting paid to post.

I didn't think it would be this hardand it is starting to get to me. I guess I need to accept that this next year and a half will not be pleasant at times. Just venting to my fellow Hillary supporters. Please remember that this is the Hillary room and criticism is not appreciated or appropriate.

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I have to admit I thought that I did not think it would get this ugly so soon here. HRC Room Post. (Original Post) hrmjustin Nov 2014 OP
I'm going to vote for Hillary again gwheezie Nov 2014 #1
Should be an interesting primary. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #11
Buckle up. 2008 was disgraceful. rug Nov 2014 #2
Indeed. I already got called an idiot last Sunday here. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #12
How many times have I told you to stay out of Religion? rug Nov 2014 #25
Lmfao! hrmjustin Nov 2014 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #3
ok Little Star Nov 2014 #4
Poster was shown the door. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #37
THIS is why the HRC group will always be EileenFB Nov 2014 #7
Well the thing is when you start a meta post in a safe haven Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #8
It is done as courtesy. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #9
Actually I think you have that backwards. William769 Nov 2014 #10
No really I don't. The OP 's subject is not HRC it is DU sucks. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #16
I never said DU sucks! Don't put words in my mouth. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #17
"I have to admit I thought that I did not think it would get this ugly so soon here". Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #18
Your opinion. If I thought it sucks I would just take another break. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #19
Our Group, our rules. William769 Nov 2014 #21
Your rules are silent about using this forum for meta posts about DU. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #22
It was fun, but your problem is you don't like that you can't say what you want here about HRC William769 Nov 2014 #24
You were right. i am not going to even bother with a warning anymore. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #20
I hate to be right on that subject. William769 Nov 2014 #23
I did post a warning. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #13
I don't see a problem with it gwheezie Nov 2014 #30
Thanks. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #33
It's only going to get worse. William769 Nov 2014 #5
it will be a great moment when she wins! hrmjustin Nov 2014 #14
I read a lot of HRC being republican, the first she was eligible to vote she voted Democrat Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #6
You do a great job combating it my friend. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #15
Since Warren and Dean both support Clinton, Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #27
Great point! n/t. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #28
Sorry, Justin, but this doesn't surprise me at all. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #29
Thanks my friend! hrmjustin Nov 2014 #31
It's not just the hate, but misinformation, slanting, lying, OKNancy Nov 2014 #34
Hey, thanks for that Nancy. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #38
Won't take long for them to come around. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #40
This is a great resource. Bookmarking. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #39
Hillary bashing has become a popular pastime because people are more likely lumpy Nov 2014 #36
My advice, calm down and sit tight customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #35
I know and understand waiting for the announcement but I also had difficulity waiting Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #41
I wonder where she will announce. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #42
Are any of you on the Ready for Hillary site mailing list? northoftheborder Nov 2014 #43
You mean email list? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #44
yes, i meant email. northoftheborder Nov 2014 #45
Sounds like an idea. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #46

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
1. I'm going to vote for Hillary again
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:03 AM
Nov 2014

If she runs. I supported her in 08 and avoided participating in the dem bashing and hope to do it again.
It's still so early and she hasn't announced but it is likely she'll run. I hope she has challengers, I don't think she's inevitable but I hope she is the nominee. Like 08 there were several other dems I would have been quite happy to vote for including Obama but I think she can win in 16. I thought if she had been the nominee in 08 she would have beaten mccain.
I'm not mad at any other dems who are potential nominees, I'm interested to hear more from them. I'm going to stay positive and support Hillary.

Response to hrmjustin (Original post)

EileenFB

(360 posts)
7. THIS is why the HRC group will always be
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:03 PM
Nov 2014

a problem on DU. They are defiantly posting " Go ahead and ban me", then they get in their put downs. They flat out don't give a damn about respecting rules

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. Well the thing is when you start a meta post in a safe haven
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

and bracket it with "Obey Da Rulez" it is just asking for trouble, it is an act of self fulfilling prophecy.


 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. No really I don't. The OP 's subject is not HRC it is DU sucks.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:34 PM
Nov 2014

It is simply an attempt to have a protected discussion about DU, not about HRC.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
17. I never said DU sucks! Don't put words in my mouth.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:37 PM
Nov 2014

I know we don't get along but don't put words in my mouth. My point was it is hard being a Hillary supporter here.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
18. "I have to admit I thought that I did not think it would get this ugly so soon here".
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:40 PM
Nov 2014

Is a negative statement about DU. The subject of your OP is DU, not HRC, and your stated opinion expressed in that sentence about DU is negative. My paraphrase of that as "DU sucks" was entirely accurate.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
19. Your opinion. If I thought it sucks I would just take another break.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:42 PM
Nov 2014

While I am down on it I do not think it sucks.

William769

(55,147 posts)
24. It was fun, but your problem is you don't like that you can't say what you want here about HRC
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:53 PM
Nov 2014

supporters and that will not be tolerated.

If you do not like how this Group is handled, you are more than welcome to take it to the Administrators.

Have a nice day.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
13. I did post a warning.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:27 PM
Nov 2014

I did it for those who have claimed they thought posts posted here were in other rooms because they were not paying attention.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
30. I don't see a problem with it
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:27 PM
Nov 2014

Plenty of times someone responds to a post in latest threads and don't realize they are posting in a group. I've made that mistake and felt like an ass. To me in GD all bets are off but I don't mind a reminder if it's a group because I think the groups are a good idea. People can stir it up all they want in GD.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
32. Thanks.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:32 PM
Nov 2014

I hate to see people banned but some just don't respect the safe haven rules.

I know I have not been 100 percent innocent in the pwst but I learned my lesson.

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #32)

William769

(55,147 posts)
5. It's only going to get worse.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:58 AM
Nov 2014

But if she does decide to run, Hillary will win and that's all the satisfaction I need.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. I read a lot of HRC being republican, the first she was eligible to vote she voted Democrat
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:58 AM
Nov 2014

She has remained a Democrat in her voting life, supported Democrat candidates. She has supported Democrat platform in her stand on the issues. I am not sure lots of the HRC non-supporters has read the history on the Clintons, they know what it is like to live on a lower salary, Bill was only getting something like $34,000 in salary as governor of Arkansas, they know what it is like to be on a lower salary, they lived most of their lives in the 99%. It was only after he left the presidency their net worth increased and was because of book sales and speeches. Most seems to be following Rush type falsehoods, don't have their facts straight.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
27. Since Warren and Dean both support Clinton,
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:25 PM
Nov 2014

and think she would be a great President, there must be things about Hillary Clinton that those against her wear blinders to keep form seeing.

There have been many stories where Warren openly supports Clinton for President.

Howard Dean: I hope Hillary Clinton becomes president

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
29. Sorry, Justin, but this doesn't surprise me at all.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 01:27 PM
Nov 2014

The level of hatred on this board for the Clintons is unbelievable. For what it's worth, I plan to vote for Secretary Clinton in the primary, and I'm proud to tell anyone that I support her.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
34. It's not just the hate, but misinformation, slanting, lying,
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:00 PM
Nov 2014

hyperbole and all that goes with that.

Example: Hillary is against unions and workers
Facts....

From : http://www.ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm


Click link for a link to 24 full quotes on Jobs OR other political leaders on Jobs.


No salary increase for Congress until minimum wage increased. (Jul 2007)
Would accept minimum wage as president. (Jul 2007)
Stand up for unions; organize for fair wages. (Jun 2007)
Get tough with China and bring jobs back home. (Feb 2007)
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages. (Dec 2006)
Passed 2 planks of 7-plank platform, “New Jobs for New York”. (Oct 2006)
Minimum wage should be tied to congressional salaries. (Jun 2006)
Pushed for extension of unemployment insurance. (Feb 2004)
The working poor deserve a living wage. (Oct 1999)
America can afford to raise the minimum wage. (Sep 1999)
Recently “we’re in it together” became “you’re on your own”. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Nov 2008)
Voted NO on terminating legal challenges to English-only job rules. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Feb 2007)
Voted YES on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
Protect overtime pay protections. (Jun 2003)
Rated 85% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record. (Dec 2003)
Allow an Air Traffic Controller's Union. (Jan 2006)
Sponsored bill linking minimum wage to Congress' pay raises. (May 2006)
Extend unemployment compensation during recession. (Jan 2008)
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue. (Jan 2009)
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination. (Jan 2009)

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
38. Hey, thanks for that Nancy.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:49 PM
Nov 2014

I'm going to use that the next time some know-it-all tells me what a right-wing shill Secretary Clinton is.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
40. Won't take long for them to come around.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:55 PM
Nov 2014

Just sad.

You would think she is ted cruz if you listened to some here.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
36. Hillary bashing has become a popular pastime because people are more likely
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:24 PM
Nov 2014

to get responses to their negative posts. One way to get attention.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
35. My advice, calm down and sit tight
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:30 PM
Nov 2014

We're less than two years away from the election, and nobody can possibly overcome Hillary's advantages in both the nomination process and the general election. Let the people who are going to eventually vote for her in November 2016 get it all out of their systems now as to why they don't want to.

The bright side of this is, we won't have a bruising primary fight that tears down our eventual nominee (the Rethugs would love that this time around, since there's no one whose 'turn' it is) and the money that would be spent during primary campaigns for the presidential race can be spent on getting progressive nominees on the fall ballot.

Hillary will work with whatever Congress the American people give her, it's up to us to make sure that they reflect as much of our values as possible. Spending time, money and emotion on a done deal is a waste, when there are other places to expend those things that will make a difference.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
43. Are any of you on the Ready for Hillary site mailing list?
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 08:15 PM
Nov 2014

They have tons of new merchandise, if you are interested.

In reference to some of above comments: Full Ignore works great!

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