Each loss makes the other side here more vicious, and GD , Latest breaking news, GD, and other forums display vicious attacks.

I do not intend to go out and look for a fight.
But I find it upsetting that the only place we can really have an honest discussion about Clinton is in this protected zone.

About half the time, I have GD turned off. But with posts supporting Sanders openly appearing in GD, Breaking News, and everywhere else, they are hard to escape.

to this.. have you seen it?! Hilariously true.. the acting is brilliant and the script wrote itself, of course.

Those that I dislike the most, those with the most obnoxious posts, will never vote for Hillary; the only reason their here on DU is to support Sanders. Why should I treat them as "brethren"?

I know how you feel though.

... the worst of them will vote Green Party or sit their hands and not vote. There are scores of them who claim, probably truthfully, that they haven voted for a Democratic candidate in the last 1- to 20 years. They were willing to make an exception for Sanders, but.....

We have to understand those voters who populate DU are in no way representative of the typical Democratic voter out there. You're not representative, I'm not representative, and the most zealous Bernie supporters on DU are not representative either. DU attracts the most politically passionate, not normal voters.

How many DU members are there? Let's be generous and say 20K and they are scattered all over the country and some are in foreign lands. How we we vote, how they will vote (or don't vote) almost certainly is not going to change single thing in the general election. Let's not obsess how a few Bernie supporters on DU are going to vote.

given the sources they link from. Having said that, you know damn well they'll never vote for a real Dem.

The Bernie or Bust people, no.

I am tired of this mentality. Hillary was a rockstar for Obama, and we '08 HRC people stepped up, too. It was nothing like this.

The people I know, even the conservatives ones, don't act like that.

They say right up front they're not.

I'm also sure there are more than the usual amount of conservative trolls actively
posting as Bernie supporters.

Since the jury syatem seems weighted in their favor
the RW sources are showing up more frequently.

I also just saw an OP that was openly wishing for
Hillary to be indicted.

IT's going to be nasty until Skinner calls it.
But the I expect it will clean itself up really fast.

it is very hard.

Hillary is winning.
No amount of their dudebro crap is going to effect that.

They know they've lost and most of them know as soon as
DU goes on GE footing that they'll either not come here anymore
or that they'll get tombstoned.
I think that's why the over the top crap now.
They're getting in as much unhinged venting as possible

There are even regulars or somewhat regulars that are going overboard. Putting it mildly.

They'll never vote for hillary anyway

75% of Bernie supporters in the real world have already said they will vote for Hillary. By November many more will come on board but I have no expectations from people who have sworn never to vote for Hillary. We will never change their minds. Most, if not all, are not even Democrats.

Why should I care about them, their feelings or their opinions? They mean nothing to me.

have gone online to vent their anger. Most people in the real world think it's insane to go from liking hillary 4 months ago, to believing she's Damien from the Omen just because some new democratic candidate went negative when losing became apparent. If there was no Bernie these same people would be praising Hillary. But when humans latch onto a team, candidate, competitor, and that person doesn't win, emotions take over

I grasped at those same straws in 08. But I was never this vicious. These so called democrats here are one toke over the line, full on acid flashback get-yer-survival-bunker-ready cuz hill's gonna incite armageddon...

I'm torn on whether to give a full pass on their behavior. But I do understand what you are saying.

In '08, I shrugged, got on the Obama train, and got on with my life. I was, all things considered, pretty content with the outcome and it took me about three seconds to get over my disappointment.

Forgiving? Some of them...no, I simply can't. They'll never come off block. I never want to read what they've written ever again.

I've never seen these sort of meltdowns. It's really immature.

Most are like some of us were in 2008. They will be disappointed for varying reasons and lengths of time, but in the end will recognize that we actually have a true gem of a candidate and a unique opportunity to move forward in so many ways. I believe that most of these are longtime or new Dems who know in the final analysis who the Real Enemy is.

Those I will welcome, and gladly.

But some were never Dems and never in a million years will be. Whether they are Indies who support Bernie because they are truly inspired by him as they have never before been by anyone else and never - ever- will be again, or whether they are Libertarians who want to see the Dem party destroyed, or whether they are genuine Hillary-haters, or whether they are GOPer trolls who specifically have been trying to sow dissension and see Bernie as the best means of enabling a GOP win this November - none of that really matters.

The first three groups might vote Dem in the GE but ONLY if Bernie is the candidate and ONLY then if he has maintained their purist standard throughout and never - ever - compromised. That "might" is troubling and is pretty flimsy support to base a campaign for President on, especially when Bernie and his supporters have specifically managed to alienate large swaths of loyal Dem base voters.

Even then, the loyal Dem base would nonetheless hold their noses and vote for him because the GOP alternative is too awful to contemplate.

The likelihood of GOPer trolls ever voting Dem is nil. Period.

I too hope that those in ALL non-Dem groups NEVER post on DU again. If they do, they will go straight to my Iggy List (most are likely there already) and will hopefully will be PPRed as well.

Maybe you should turn it into an OP today. It's a shame it's hidden down here with a subject line that doesn't do it justice hint at it's heartfelt content!

lost but it didn't take me long @ all to get out there cheering for Kerry.

That's what you do when you care about your country/Planet more than your own little hurt fees.

They came here with ill intent, to sow discord, and I have nothing but contempt for them.
The Bernie people who are Dems and were caught up in the moment, is another thing entirely.
But the disruptors needs ta go.

Because they have been such dickturds.

I'll try.

The bullying, the accusations against long-time DUers, the continuous RW smears against Hillary, the Bernie or BUst posters.

I admire you so much, but I cannot let that much vitriol go.

I will welcome! ~

As for NOW I only post in HRC Group.
Don't go looking for BS'ers at all.


HRC GROUP READY!