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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:44 PM Apr 2016

Jane Sanders just spent 10 min. stuttering through a most embarrassing interview on MSNBC.

Her days as an on-air surrogate may be numbered.

Cringe-worthy. More whining about closed primaries, unfair press, yada, yada, yada.

OUT OF HER LEAGUE. Further proof that the campaign is in disarray.

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Jane Sanders just spent 10 min. stuttering through a most embarrassing interview on MSNBC. (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #1
Someone needs to get her another college in Vermont to screw up... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #2
Yeah, I'm tired of being aged out while I'm in the midst of my productive years. LisaM Apr 2016 #3
More silly insistence that the Bern is "bringing SO many new voters into the process..." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #5
Surya, priceless comeback! nt kstewart33 Apr 2016 #22
I second your "priceless comeback". hamsterjill Apr 2016 #52
She should go to a different state to screw them up. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #14
We don't have that many colleges in Idaho... jmowreader Apr 2016 #70
They couldn't find an out of the way basement for her? LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #73
Not in this state jmowreader Apr 2016 #74
Okay LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #75
she didnt seem to know MFM008 Apr 2016 #4
Totally in the dark. Not a clue. It was embarrassing for the N°1 surrogate! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #7
Would YOU let her have an real info? 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #61
No, she's too much of an amateur. But, that begs the question...what the hell is she Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #62
Odd that she is doing so many interviews. Did Michelle O do that, too? SharonClark Apr 2016 #6
You know the answer to that. No, she kept a respectful distance and let the pros do their job. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #10
Also Michelle is WAY more charismatic and articulate. iandhr Apr 2016 #32
She would be a fantastic politician. But, having seen Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #36
Touche iandhr Apr 2016 #37
I think the Obamas should move to Vermont, where Michelle can primary the Bern. displacedtexan Apr 2016 #47
I hope somebody primaries his traitorous butt. Just why Vermonters keep Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #49
She and her family have given plenty to this country! Walk away Apr 2016 #46
No doubt. iandhr Apr 2016 #48
I saw Michelle on the Larry King Show.... CherokeeDem Apr 2016 #50
She did "background" interviews, but was NEVER headlined Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #54
"Jane, you're playing a game you never can win." johnp3907 Apr 2016 #8
I love that song DesertRat Apr 2016 #66
If they wanted better press pandr32 Apr 2016 #9
What a bunch of amateurs, except when it comes to hitting up their disciples Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #12
Where will all that money will end up after Sanders finally does his long awaited swan song? procon Apr 2016 #19
Doesn't the DNC get some of it? I don't know the rules for left-over cash. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #23
What Happens to the Leftover Campaign Money? Her Sister Apr 2016 #33
Thanks for the info. Somehow, I don't see the Bern giving a red cent to the Dem Party Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #39
Rules were made to be broken. procon Apr 2016 #57
"Pay campaign bills and debts" DesertRat Apr 2016 #67
What I figure will happen... jmowreader Apr 2016 #71
He could. I doubt he will. Most likely he will save it for his next Senate run. Lucinda Apr 2016 #34
And playing the victims pandr32 Apr 2016 #72
Some people are not made for television. madaboutharry Apr 2016 #11
She has never been trained to think on her feet and to field questions. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #15
Was there a thought if Sanders ran on the DNC ticket He would automatically win? Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #13
Excellent question that has occurred to me as well. There's this air Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #17
I don't think they thought they would win in the beginning at all. Lucinda Apr 2016 #35
They are delivering answers and nothing more. Accept reality, it isn't voted fraud or Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #38
Yep. Lucinda Apr 2016 #41
The tv was on with her speaking.... LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #16
If she was a paid consultant or surrogate, she'd be out of a job... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #18
And she hasn't produced those tax records yet either 2naSalit Apr 2016 #20
He'll slink back into the Senate as persona non grata. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #25
Yeah, 2naSalit Apr 2016 #27
He does not want to expose Poor followers he is in the top 6% of income. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #42
Yup. 2naSalit Apr 2016 #44
And she continued to promote the undemocratic idea... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #21
"...do everything they possibly can to make sure Hillary can't move towards the general election..." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #26
The whining about indies not being able to vote gets me the worst Gman Apr 2016 #24
I KNOW! I just wanted to scream: "What PARTY did you friggin' join already..for your Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #28
Makes ya wonder. 2naSalit Apr 2016 #29
Yup, and not a word about how caucuses disenfranchise even worse. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #30
I know... Blanks Apr 2016 #31
I dunno about outsiders gaming the system as much as Gman Apr 2016 #64
True... Blanks Apr 2016 #65
I may have misunderstood, but to clarify Gman Apr 2016 #69
So... Jane just said that we just don't understand what Bernie has to offer? displacedtexan Apr 2016 #40
That was the gist, yes. We Democrats are just too blinkered and blind to the Bern's Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #43
The only things I heard him hammering is breaking up the banks, Hillary gets big money Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #45
Remember when Mitt Romney said "We use Ann sparingly right now, Tanuki Apr 2016 #51
Her over-exposure is doing the campaign no good. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #53
When I heard her say, "hope springs eternal" DesertRat Apr 2016 #55
Her usefulness as a campaign advisor is nil. Much too Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #56
Exactly DesertRat Apr 2016 #58
Here's a link to the interview for those who missed it DesertRat Apr 2016 #59
Great! Thanks for sharing... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #60
Soon to be a footnote in history GusBob Apr 2016 #63
THAT was embarrassing NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #68

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
2. Someone needs to get her another college in Vermont to screw up...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:47 PM
Apr 2016

Just so we didn't have to hear her speak again.


Also, you're not bringing people into the process for the long haul if you can't get them to join the democratic party and everyone over 40 isn't worthless.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
3. Yeah, I'm tired of being aged out while I'm in the midst of my productive years.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:50 PM
Apr 2016

Do they plan to put us all on some farm when they've squeezed us out of the workplace?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. More silly insistence that the Bern is "bringing SO many new voters into the process..."
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

Well, WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY? He's losing! By a lot!

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
70. We don't have that many colleges in Idaho...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

...and none of them would ever accept Jane Sanders, wife of an aging 1960s radical, as their president.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. Totally in the dark. Not a clue. It was embarrassing for the N°1 surrogate!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:24 PM - Edit history (1)

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
61. Would YOU let her have an real info?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

She's a loose cannon. She'd run right to the press and blab all the campaign's secrets.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
62. No, she's too much of an amateur. But, that begs the question...what the hell is she
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

doing running from one media outlet to another?

She knows little and understands less.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. You know the answer to that. No, she kept a respectful distance and let the pros do their job.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:55 PM
Apr 2016

She campaigned in the field, but was NEVER an official surrogate in the media.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
32. Also Michelle is WAY more charismatic and articulate.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

But she did do some interviews.

I am kind of disappointed she has never expressed interest in running for office. I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
36. She would be a fantastic politician. But, having seen
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

her husband eviscerated for 8 years from a front row seat, I fear she's been turned off for good.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
47. I think the Obamas should move to Vermont, where Michelle can primary the Bern.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:52 PM
Apr 2016

He's up for reelection in 2 years. Just enough time for Michelle to primary the hell out of him.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
49. I hope somebody primaries his traitorous butt. Just why Vermonters keep
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:59 PM
Apr 2016

voting for this forked-tongue fabricator, I don't know.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
46. She and her family have given plenty to this country!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

They deserve some happiness and a real home life.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
50. I saw Michelle on the Larry King Show....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

I was wavering at the time... really liked Hillary but also like Obama. She was extremely impressive and I liked what she had to say about Obama. I ended up supporting Obama but late in the process, partly because of this amazing woman.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
54. She did "background" interviews, but was NEVER headlined
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

as a campaign surrogate, and much less as the N°1 political advisor to BHO.

She understood the critical need for pros in the top-tier jobs.

Now, though, she could probably run a campaign as top advisor. Living and working in the WH is like earning a Ph.D in Poli. Sci., if the FLOTUS choses to learn from it.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
9. If they wanted better press
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

...perhaps they shouldn't of stranded a bunch of reporters on the tarmac when they flew back to Vermont in a huff after Hillary hugely won New York.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. What a bunch of amateurs, except when it comes to hitting up their disciples
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:58 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:49 PM - Edit history (1)

for more money. That they know how to do.
Run a credible campaign? Not so much.

procon

(15,805 posts)
19. Where will all that money will end up after Sanders finally does his long awaited swan song?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

Its quite a haul for a man who is always crying poor and says he's not going to support any other Democrats.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. Doesn't the DNC get some of it? I don't know the rules for left-over cash.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:11 PM
Apr 2016

Anybody? What ARE the rules for redistributing left-over campaign cash?

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
33. What Happens to the Leftover Campaign Money?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016
https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/04/09/what-happens-to-the-leftover-campaign-money/


Independent Senator Bernie Sanders is sitting on millions in campaign funds for his run for the presidency. He also faces the nearly impossible goal of gaining the Democratic nomination. So when his bid comes to its conclusion, what will he do with those millions?

There’s no clear answer but one possibility just might land a Republican in the White House.

Candidates whose campaigns end unsuccessfully are not required to disperse the donations. These funds may sit in their campaign account indefinitely. However, when failed candidates dispose of these funds, they must follow a set of regulations embodied in the 1989 Ethics Reform Act and detailed in Chapter 11 of the Code of Federal Regulations. A simplified version of those regulations is listed below.

REGULATED USE OF EXCESS CAMPAIGN DONATIONS

1. Funds cannot be used for personal use.
2. Funds may be used to pay campaign bills and debts.
3. Funds may be returned to contributors.
4. Funds may be donated to a charity.
5. Funds may be donated to a political party.
6. Funds may be donated to a political candidate.



As of this writing, Bernie Sanders’ principal campaign fund shows $17 million cash-on-hand. That amount will change as more reports come in to the FEC, showing both added donations as well as disbursements. So the cash-on-hand may rise or dip.


More in link...
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
39. Thanks for the info. Somehow, I don't see the Bern giving a red cent to the Dem Party
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

or the Clinton GE campaign.

procon

(15,805 posts)
57. Rules were made to be broken.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:47 PM
Apr 2016

Its a joke the way politicians find ways to work around those regulations and enrich themselves. Remember Sarah Palin? She, too, was parsimonious when it came to funding her less fortunate Republican pals, but she sure found lots of reasons to spend millions on herself. She used some money to build that TV studio on her house, and she certainly traveled in style with luxury accommodations... do snowmobiles count as politically necessary transportation? Maybe moose meat?

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
71. What I figure will happen...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:39 PM
Apr 2016

He'll shut down his fundraising conduit so no more money comes in after a certain date, and go scorched-earth on Hillary with whatever he has on hand as retribution for denying him his destiny as the Savior of the Democratic Party. I do NOT believe for a minute this man is going to work to help stave off the Republicans.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
34. He could. I doubt he will. Most likely he will save it for his next Senate run.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:24 PM
Apr 2016

He could donate to charity, the DNC, others running for office. etc.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
72. And playing the victims
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:52 PM
Apr 2016

So tired of it. Hillary has run an amazing campaign, has worked hard while having all kinds of crap thrown at her, and now Sanders wants her to "earn" the support of his "disciples"

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
11. Some people are not made for television.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016

Being on television and having to think fast on your feet takes a certain type of personality. She seems too introverted for that job.

Also, when messaging isn't coordinated it shows a lack of organization. It is clear that the Sanders campaign has spent too much time in a bubble and not facing up to the reality of arithmetic.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
15. She has never been trained to think on her feet and to field questions.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

She has her stock talking points, just like the Bern, but can easily be derailed.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. Was there a thought if Sanders ran on the DNC ticket He would automatically win?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:59 PM
Apr 2016

As we have seen many times before not everyone who enters the DNC primaries win the nomination and not all DNC nominees win the presidency. His agenda did not excite at least 2.7 million more voters and was easy to see he did not have a handle on the cost.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
17. Excellent question that has occurred to me as well. There's this air
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:03 PM
Apr 2016

of "pouting entitlement" that underlies their whining.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
35. I don't think they thought they would win in the beginning at all.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

They didn't make any plans to register voters at rallies.
They didn't make any plans, other than signing that initial DNC fund raising agreement, to work on down ticket races.
Those are two indicators that they didn't think they were going to need to do it.

I think that when the campaign rhetoric changed and went more negative, that is when they started buying into the hype. January-ish, if memory serves.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
38. They are delivering answers and nothing more. Accept reality, it isn't voted fraud or
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

Southern states, PIC or poor people who did not vote, Sanders simply is not getting enough votes.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
41. Yep.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

It's really not complicated. He is losing because he has no clue what is needed to do the job, and no idea how to implement is ideas. And he has been unable to listen to the voters and make adjustments. The absolute disregard for what AA voters were trying to tell him about his approach, was inept politics of the highest order.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. If she was a paid consultant or surrogate, she'd be out of a job...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

She certainly did the Bern no favors.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
20. And she hasn't produced those tax records yet either
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

because...? But she has plenty of time to go on teevee and trash the system her spouse and she insist on being a vested part of. Can't have it both ways, Jane. Go home a dredge up those taxes, mmmkay?



You know there will be a great squealing and gnashing of teeth when all this posturing with faux info turns out to be their political undoing. But I'm sure he'll be able to keep his job in the Senate after all the dust settles.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
25. He'll slink back into the Senate as persona non grata.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

Lucky if he retains any of his committee appointments.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
21. And she continued to promote the undemocratic idea...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

of staying in not just through the end of the primaries, but through the convention. She makes it sounds like they not only will never concede they lost, but do everything they possibly can to make sure Hillary can't move towards the general election one second earlier than the last minute. It's sad to watch them convince themselves that burning every bridge they have with other Dems is the way to go.

I imagine the calls for Bernie's concession will be growing loud tomorrow.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
26. "...do everything they possibly can to make sure Hillary can't move towards the general election..."
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

That's definitely the underlying message in every word.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
24. The whining about indies not being able to vote gets me the worst
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:12 PM
Apr 2016

I want to yell, "ITS THE EFFING DEMOCRATIC PARTY, FERCHRISSAKE!"

Why the hell didn't they get involved many years ago to change it???

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
28. I KNOW! I just wanted to scream: "What PARTY did you friggin' join already..for your
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

own ambitious, selfish ends?"

Sure as hell NOT the non-existent INDEPENDENT PARTY OF AMEIRCA!

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
29. Makes ya wonder.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:20 PM
Apr 2016

Besides, he made an agreement with the party he has crashed and reneged on it. Now they are whining because the party the crashed aren't thrilled with them and their selfishness.

That takes some gall right there.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
31. I know...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

It's obvious that the independents are kept from voting in the democratic primary to prevent outsiders from gaming the system.

The Democratic Party was nice enough to let him run even though he's an independent, now they're gonna whine about how unfair the democrats are every chance they get.

It seems very unappreciative to me.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
64. I dunno about outsiders gaming the system as much as
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

It's the Democratic Party.

If they didn't like it, they should sign up as a Democrat. If not, wait until November.

The ELECTIONS is not until November. Primaries ARE NOT the general election

FERCHRISSAKE!

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
65. True...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

There are a couple of different reasons to NOT allow outsiders to vote in the primaries.

I can see allowing the states to choose whether or not to allow outsiders to vote in the primaries. It should be up to the states.

In this particular election (where the democrats had good candidates) it might make sense to vote for the worst Republican. I sometimes wonder if that's what has given us Trump.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
69. I may have misunderstood, but to clarify
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

The state's do not choose how a primary is conducted but rather it's laid out in the state party rules. In fact the state party (both) pay the state and local governments for conducting the primary.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
40. So... Jane just said that we just don't understand what Bernie has to offer?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

When asked if the campaign was going to assess its position following today's primaries, she said no, and (I paraphrase) that young people understand, but we don't.

That campaign is really messed up. They are all saying different things to the press and spending all of their time trying to straighten out messes they, themselves, have created.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
43. That was the gist, yes. We Democrats are just too blinkered and blind to the Bern's
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

superior qualities and platform.

Only those more savvy and enthusisatic Independents know his real worth.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
45. The only things I heard him hammering is breaking up the banks, Hillary gets big money
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

For giving speeches, give up the transcripts. Sanders is letting himself down on what he has to offer. His agenda of $17 trillion over 10 years is big tax increases and big debt.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
53. Her over-exposure is doing the campaign no good.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

It's more and more apparent with every interview that she's in over her head, and spinning madly to keep afloat.

She's NOT a particularly sympathetic or charismatic figure.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
55. When I heard her say, "hope springs eternal"
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

I could see that she is hopelessly in denial. She said that 20% of the country hadn't voted and that Sanders and Clinton were going to "split the delegates."

It sounded like she's been doing that Bernie Math:

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
56. Her usefulness as a campaign advisor is nil. Much too
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:44 PM
Apr 2016

emotionally involved. She needs to go home to Vermont (and find those tax forms...).

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