Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumJane Sanders just spent 10 min. stuttering through a most embarrassing interview on MSNBC.
Her days as an on-air surrogate may be numbered.
Cringe-worthy. More whining about closed primaries, unfair press, yada, yada, yada.
OUT OF HER LEAGUE. Further proof that the campaign is in disarray.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Just so we didn't have to hear her speak again.
Also, you're not bringing people into the process for the long haul if you can't get them to join the democratic party and everyone over 40 isn't worthless.
LisaM
(27,813 posts)Do they plan to put us all on some farm when they've squeezed us out of the workplace?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Well, WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY? He's losing! By a lot!
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Well done. Very well done!
(And quite true, as well!)
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)Like maybe Utah or Idaho.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)...and none of them would ever accept Jane Sanders, wife of an aging 1960s radical, as their president.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)I think they need to stay right where they are. Why inflict them on any other state?
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)Maybe Trump will start up one of his universities.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)what her own campaign is doing....
Surya Gayatri
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72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)She's a loose cannon. She'd run right to the press and blab all the campaign's secrets.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)doing running from one media outlet to another?
She knows little and understands less.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)She campaigned in the field, but was NEVER an official surrogate in the media.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)But she did do some interviews.
I am kind of disappointed she has never expressed interest in running for office. I would vote for her in a heartbeat.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)her husband eviscerated for 8 years from a front row seat, I fear she's been turned off for good.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)He's up for reelection in 2 years. Just enough time for Michelle to primary the hell out of him.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)voting for this forked-tongue fabricator, I don't know.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)They deserve some happiness and a real home life.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)I was wavering at the time... really liked Hillary but also like Obama. She was extremely impressive and I liked what she had to say about Obama. I ended up supporting Obama but late in the process, partly because of this amazing woman.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)as a campaign surrogate, and much less as the N°1 political advisor to BHO.
She understood the critical need for pros in the top-tier jobs.
Now, though, she could probably run a campaign as top advisor. Living and working in the WH is like earning a Ph.D in Poli. Sci., if the FLOTUS choses to learn from it.
johnp3907
(3,732 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Hope I don't picture J.S. now whenever I hear it.
pandr32
(11,588 posts)...perhaps they shouldn't of stranded a bunch of reporters on the tarmac when they flew back to Vermont in a huff after Hillary hugely won New York.
Surya Gayatri
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for more money. That they know how to do.
Run a credible campaign? Not so much.
procon
(15,805 posts)Its quite a haul for a man who is always crying poor and says he's not going to support any other Democrats.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Anybody? What ARE the rules for redistributing left-over campaign cash?
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Theres no clear answer but one possibility just might land a Republican in the White House.
Candidates whose campaigns end unsuccessfully are not required to disperse the donations. These funds may sit in their campaign account indefinitely. However, when failed candidates dispose of these funds, they must follow a set of regulations embodied in the 1989 Ethics Reform Act and detailed in Chapter 11 of the Code of Federal Regulations. A simplified version of those regulations is listed below.
REGULATED USE OF EXCESS CAMPAIGN DONATIONS
1. Funds cannot be used for personal use.
2. Funds may be used to pay campaign bills and debts.
3. Funds may be returned to contributors.
4. Funds may be donated to a charity.
5. Funds may be donated to a political party.
6. Funds may be donated to a political candidate.
As of this writing, Bernie Sanders principal campaign fund shows $17 million cash-on-hand. That amount will change as more reports come in to the FEC, showing both added donations as well as disbursements. So the cash-on-hand may rise or dip.
More in link...
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)or the Clinton GE campaign.
procon
(15,805 posts)Its a joke the way politicians find ways to work around those regulations and enrich themselves. Remember Sarah Palin? She, too, was parsimonious when it came to funding her less fortunate Republican pals, but she sure found lots of reasons to spend millions on herself. She used some money to build that TV studio on her house, and she certainly traveled in style with luxury accommodations... do snowmobiles count as politically necessary transportation? Maybe moose meat?
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)That trip to Rome couldn't have been cheap.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)He'll shut down his fundraising conduit so no more money comes in after a certain date, and go scorched-earth on Hillary with whatever he has on hand as retribution for denying him his destiny as the Savior of the Democratic Party. I do NOT believe for a minute this man is going to work to help stave off the Republicans.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)He could donate to charity, the DNC, others running for office. etc.
pandr32
(11,588 posts)So tired of it. Hillary has run an amazing campaign, has worked hard while having all kinds of crap thrown at her, and now Sanders wants her to "earn" the support of his "disciples"
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)Being on television and having to think fast on your feet takes a certain type of personality. She seems too introverted for that job.
Also, when messaging isn't coordinated it shows a lack of organization. It is clear that the Sanders campaign has spent too much time in a bubble and not facing up to the reality of arithmetic.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)She has her stock talking points, just like the Bern, but can easily be derailed.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)As we have seen many times before not everyone who enters the DNC primaries win the nomination and not all DNC nominees win the presidency. His agenda did not excite at least 2.7 million more voters and was easy to see he did not have a handle on the cost.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)of "pouting entitlement" that underlies their whining.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)They didn't make any plans to register voters at rallies.
They didn't make any plans, other than signing that initial DNC fund raising agreement, to work on down ticket races.
Those are two indicators that they didn't think they were going to need to do it.
I think that when the campaign rhetoric changed and went more negative, that is when they started buying into the hype. January-ish, if memory serves.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Southern states, PIC or poor people who did not vote, Sanders simply is not getting enough votes.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)It's really not complicated. He is losing because he has no clue what is needed to do the job, and no idea how to implement is ideas. And he has been unable to listen to the voters and make adjustments. The absolute disregard for what AA voters were trying to tell him about his approach, was inept politics of the highest order.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)but I barely heard what she was saying.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)She certainly did the Bern no favors.
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)because...? But she has plenty of time to go on teevee and trash the system her spouse and she insist on being a vested part of. Can't have it both ways, Jane. Go home a dredge up those taxes, mmmkay?
You know there will be a great squealing and gnashing of teeth when all this posturing with faux info turns out to be their political undoing. But I'm sure he'll be able to keep his job in the Senate after all the dust settles.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Lucky if he retains any of his committee appointments.
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)most likely outcome.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)of staying in not just through the end of the primaries, but through the convention. She makes it sounds like they not only will never concede they lost, but do everything they possibly can to make sure Hillary can't move towards the general election one second earlier than the last minute. It's sad to watch them convince themselves that burning every bridge they have with other Dems is the way to go.
I imagine the calls for Bernie's concession will be growing loud tomorrow.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)That's definitely the underlying message in every word.
Gman
(24,780 posts)I want to yell, "ITS THE EFFING DEMOCRATIC PARTY, FERCHRISSAKE!"
Why the hell didn't they get involved many years ago to change it???
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)own ambitious, selfish ends?"
Sure as hell NOT the non-existent INDEPENDENT PARTY OF AMEIRCA!
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)Besides, he made an agreement with the party he has crashed and reneged on it. Now they are whining because the party the crashed aren't thrilled with them and their selfishness.
That takes some gall right there.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)It's obvious that the independents are kept from voting in the democratic primary to prevent outsiders from gaming the system.
The Democratic Party was nice enough to let him run even though he's an independent, now they're gonna whine about how unfair the democrats are every chance they get.
It seems very unappreciative to me.
Gman
(24,780 posts)It's the Democratic Party.
If they didn't like it, they should sign up as a Democrat. If not, wait until November.
The ELECTIONS is not until November. Primaries ARE NOT the general election
FERCHRISSAKE!
There are a couple of different reasons to NOT allow outsiders to vote in the primaries.
I can see allowing the states to choose whether or not to allow outsiders to vote in the primaries. It should be up to the states.
In this particular election (where the democrats had good candidates) it might make sense to vote for the worst Republican. I sometimes wonder if that's what has given us Trump.
Gman
(24,780 posts)The state's do not choose how a primary is conducted but rather it's laid out in the state party rules. In fact the state party (both) pay the state and local governments for conducting the primary.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)When asked if the campaign was going to assess its position following today's primaries, she said no, and (I paraphrase) that young people understand, but we don't.
That campaign is really messed up. They are all saying different things to the press and spending all of their time trying to straighten out messes they, themselves, have created.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)superior qualities and platform.
Only those more savvy and enthusisatic Independents know his real worth.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)For giving speeches, give up the transcripts. Sanders is letting himself down on what he has to offer. His agenda of $17 trillion over 10 years is big tax increases and big debt.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)so that people don't get tired of her"? Maybe Bernie should take that to heart.
http://jezebel.com/5944574/ann-romney-will-inevitably-annoy-voters-says-mitt-romney
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)It's more and more apparent with every interview that she's in over her head, and spinning madly to keep afloat.
She's NOT a particularly sympathetic or charismatic figure.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I could see that she is hopelessly in denial. She said that 20% of the country hadn't voted and that Sanders and Clinton were going to "split the delegates."
It sounded like she's been doing that Bernie Math:
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)emotionally involved. She needs to go home to Vermont (and find those tax forms...).
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Why aren't they asking her about that??
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)The sidekick of an also ran
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I almost felt sorry for her until she whined about the unfairness of it all.