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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:07 PM Apr 2016

Update on Bernie's layoffs.

As reported on MSNBC tonight on Maddow, Jeff Weaver informed the laid-off employees in a group phone call to all that lasted about 10 minutes. Some employees (number not reported) were upset because they understood that they would be working up to June 1 and possibility thereafter and they were now unexpectedly unemployed. Some (number unspecified) were upset because Bernie was not on the phone call. They were very committed to the campaign and would have liked to hear the news from Bernie. Employees were paid $15 an hour.

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Update on Bernie's layoffs. (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
Bernie's Senate staff should have warned them about how Bernie treats employees. nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #1
That's right.. we've read his history of record. Not cool, bernie. Cha Apr 2016 #16
I feel bad for them. athena Apr 2016 #2
This was going to happen, probably Weaver is trying to hang on to his salary as long as possible. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #3
Maybe he could have used a few a while longer instead of the lux trip to Rome Rose Siding Apr 2016 #11
Excellent observation, Rose~ I just posted on another thread that the.. Cha Apr 2016 #17
That is always the way it is when someone is laid off. DawgHouse Apr 2016 #4
Indeed, there are zero ways to "prepare" for being fired. It's inherent to the situation. IamMab Apr 2016 #6
Yes, it would have given them something too look forward too. DawgHouse Apr 2016 #7
Sounds like a good plan.. why didn't geniuses over @ Camp BS think of it? Cha Apr 2016 #18
I once had to lay off 80 people from a failing company and I met with every one... Walk away Apr 2016 #9
I think I love you... and your dad's sage advice.. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #13
You have me all choked up, Walk away.. hearing what is the decent thing to do is what Cha Apr 2016 #19
+1 Historic NY Apr 2016 #24
Nobly and admirably handled. 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #27
Thanks. This happened 25 years ago and the entire company was put to rest... Walk away Apr 2016 #28
Unfortunately, this seems to be BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #26
Pissing off former staffers is going to work as well as pissing off reporters did for Bernie. SaschaHM Apr 2016 #5
That's unfortunate. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #8
Bernie doesn't reach out to individuals. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #12
I feel bad DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #10
Pretty cold capitalist move for an ostensibly socialist campaign, if you ask me. nt MADem Apr 2016 #14
Bernie should have been on the phone call. They worked their butts off for him and his still_one Apr 2016 #15
Yes, in the very least that would have been the honorable thing to do.. Cha Apr 2016 #20
Yes, agree, Bernie should have in on the call. riversedge Apr 2016 #23
Ordinarily, most of these folks would apply to the winning campaign 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #21
It is hard to undrink the Kool-Aid. Koinos Apr 2016 #22
So Bernie is pinkslipping employees to save money pandr32 Apr 2016 #25
The denial Fla Dem Apr 2016 #29
No big deal - that is how campaigns work SharonClark Apr 2016 #30

athena

(4,187 posts)
2. I feel bad for them.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

Really. We shouldn't gloat about this.

I wish he hadn't gone negative. I think he allowed his campaign managers to get the upper hand. I think he now sees that there is too much nastiness among his supporters and is trying to be less negative. At least, that's what I'm hoping.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. This was going to happen, probably Weaver is trying to hang on to his salary as long as possible.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

The employees may have been told they would be following Sanders to the WH, it was wrong to mislead.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
11. Maybe he could have used a few a while longer instead of the lux trip to Rome
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:00 AM
Apr 2016

I'd be pissed knowing how extravagant he's been.

Cha

(297,232 posts)
17. Excellent observation, Rose~ I just posted on another thread that the..
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:03 AM
Apr 2016

"Kids got shafted it was a bust"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=118913

I'm thinking the majoring don't care what BS does.. 'course they are a few who are rebelling.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
4. That is always the way it is when someone is laid off.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:12 PM
Apr 2016

The boss usually makes someone else do it. There's no head's up, and it comes as a surprise. In this case, since these are people who are true blue Bernie supporters, it would have been nice to have had him give them the news.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
6. Indeed, there are zero ways to "prepare" for being fired. It's inherent to the situation.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:19 PM
Apr 2016

And I agree, Sanders should have been the one to break the news. Especially since he could have softened the blow with the same reasoning that he used in an interview about the layoffs. He could always re-assure the faithful by reminding them that when he wins California by 107% and all of the super-delegates (even Hillary Clinton in her capacity as a super-delegate!) flip to him, after having 700-odd birds land on all their houses simultaneously, that he could rehire them for the general election. That would at least have given them something to look forward to, right?

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
7. Yes, it would have given them something too look forward too.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

If I were working on his campaign, I would probably be feeling a little under appreciated right now.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. I once had to lay off 80 people from a failing company and I met with every one...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:58 PM
Apr 2016

with my HR head. Counseled them, explained their exit packages, personally arranged recommendations for them, let them get angry and held their hands and listened when they cried. It took me two long days in five different states and it was brutal but, as difficult as the whole time was, at least I did my best to treat everyone like valued human beings in a terrible situation.
My Father taught me that when you are running a business the people who work for you come first. Then you take care of yourself.

sheshe2

(83,766 posts)
13. I think I love you... and your dad's sage advice..
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:09 AM
Apr 2016

What you did, your compassion and the strain it put on you as well, I hold you in the highest regard.

Thank you Walk away.

PS. One of my dad's quotes to me. "If you cannot do a job well, don't do it at all"

Cha

(297,232 posts)
19. You have me all choked up, Walk away.. hearing what is the decent thing to do is what
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:10 AM
Apr 2016

you actually did.

I can well imagine from their perspective that it was very much appreciated!

3catwoman3

(23,987 posts)
27. Nobly and admirably handled.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

That must have been excruciating. You have earned my respect based on knowing this single thing about you.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
28. Thanks. This happened 25 years ago and the entire company was put to rest...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

within a few months. The last five employees and myself sold off the stock and any assets, paid off any debts and walked out the door together like the end of a sitcom.
We stay in touch still and many of the folks that we let go that day stay in touch as well. Some of us have even worked together through the years.
I'm no angel and I don't always do the right thing, but when people work for you, their lives and their families lives can be in your hands.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
26. Unfortunately, this seems to be
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:05 AM
Apr 2016

yet another example of the tone-deafness we have seen from Bernie before.

The true blue supporters are certainly the most disappointed and have every right to be. Their hero should have had the couilles to let them know in person.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
5. Pissing off former staffers is going to work as well as pissing off reporters did for Bernie.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:16 PM
Apr 2016

I wonder when we will get the first inside story from them.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
8. That's unfortunate.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:31 PM
Apr 2016

These are the parts that I'm sure Sander's wanted to avoid, unfortunately this is not the way to handle it. He should reach out to Secretary Clinton for advice on closing out his campaign, when Hillary had to do it in 2008, she handled it with leadership. It would give the two of them a chance to build a more personal dialog.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
15. Bernie should have been on the phone call. They worked their butts off for him and his
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:02 AM
Apr 2016

campaign, and the very least he could have been on that phone call, tell them how much he appreciated their efforts, and that he was consolidating resources to better continue with the remaining primaries.

I believe it didn't show very much class on his part

Cha

(297,232 posts)
20. Yes, in the very least that would have been the honorable thing to do..
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:16 AM
Apr 2016

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I mean.. that's just what you do. Win or lose.. and especially when you have to lay-off campaign workers who expected to have pay checks until June.

I wonder if they're thinking.. ".. if Bernie didn't fly to Rome in search of the Pope would there be more money for us to relocate in California"?

He hasn't shown any class in a long time, afaic.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
21. Ordinarily, most of these folks would apply to the winning campaign
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:46 AM
Apr 2016

But they have boxed themselves into a corner with their bullshit about "revolution" and their charges of corruption against HRC.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
25. So Bernie is pinkslipping employees to save money
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:59 AM
Apr 2016

He sounds just like the corporate class he demonizes.

Fla Dem

(23,668 posts)
29. The denial
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:22 PM
Apr 2016

Posted in that other forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280186974

Why are Bernie's layoffs all over the news?

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I mean, yeah, of course, the Hillary machine. But are Bernie's former employees so alienated that they ran straight to the media? Is there a mole? Do we have anything like that kind of access to what's going on inside the Hillary campaign?

I'm NOT asking why the media are covering it; I'm asking how they know about it so quickly and in so much detail?


Responses are denial and excuses.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
30. No big deal - that is how campaigns work
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

They hire supporters as temp workers for the locale they are working in then lay them off when they move on. Since Sanders will focus on California, it makes sense to lay off people in other states and hire in California.

However, I agree that Sanders should have been on the call.

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