Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumJane Sanders: Bernie Does Poorly With Minorities Because Hillary Is ‘The Anointed One
http://bluenationreview.com/jane-sanders-bernie-does-poorly-with-minorities-because-hillary-is-the-anointed-one/Jane Sanders has become a ubiquitous presence on cable news, acting as Bernies chief surrogate. Despite nearly impossible odds for Bernies campaign, his aides and surrogates continue to cast aspersions at Hillary, while pretending they are avoiding character attacks.
Heres a a head-spinning comment from Jane Sanders on Morning Joe:
I think if he was running against anybody but Hillary Clinton, who was the anointed one, who is the most well-known person that is running for office in this country and in the world. She has a good relationship with the African-American community that goes back decades. So that hurts us, helps her.
Jane Sanders has become a ubiquitous presence on cable news, acting as Bernies chief surrogate. Despite nearly impossible odds for Bernies campaign, his aides and surrogates continue to cast aspersions at Hillary, while pretending they are avoiding character attacks.
Heres a a head-spinning comment from Jane Sanders on Morning Joe:
I think if he was running against anybody but Hillary Clinton, who was the anointed one, who is the most well-known person that is running for office in this country and in the world. She has a good relationship with the African-American community that goes back decades. So that hurts us, helps her.
The Sanders campaign is in complete denial about the destructive effect of their character smears against Hillary, pretending that their relentless insinuations of dishonesty and corruption are somehow acceptable. But they are not now and they never were. Back in 2015 (seemingly a lifetime ago), Bernie himself considered the transcript hit a character assault that he long opposed.
Its time to stop ....Bernie and move to help fight GOP...if your with us....??
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Democratic voters....Bernie doesn't do well with minorities I suspect they tune out angry old white guys
spooky3
(34,452 posts)history of relationships with many members of the AA community, then emphasized BS's relationships in the same way - if in fact they exist. Or history of voting in supportive ways.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)By now Bernie should be helping us to fight GOP,????
spooky3
(34,452 posts)It is NEVER supported with evidence and therefore is a smear.
HRC's worked as hard as everyone else in both the 2008 and 2016 campaigns to win the nomination.
What are they referring to? The superdelegates? The superdelegates do not determine how citizens vote. And if I were a candidate I would consider it MY shortcoming if few of my colleagues endorsed me. Further, why in the world would someone from OUTSIDE the party believe that s/he would be MORE entitled to superdelegate support than someone who has worked within the party and now works hard to raise money for other Democrats' campaigns?
It is a crock and one of several things that have completely changed my view of Sanders since this campaign began. An honest and sincere person is honest with himself first and does not lob vague and unfounded charges against others, particularly not against those who share many of his/her political views.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)spooky3
(34,452 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)pandr32
(11,584 posts)Very well stated.
It's a way to dismiss her accomplishments and achievements, as well as all the extremely hard work she's put in over the years.
And when has she ever said (or acted like) she was "entitled" to the DNC nomination or the presidency?? People act like she's said that and it annoys the crap out of me. If anyone is acting like an entitled person, it's Bernie.
Treant
(1,968 posts)Honestly, Hillary Clinton has taken some damage from 30 years of constant attacks, so undoubtedly Sanders has actually done better against her than he would against some others.
Can you honestly see him performing this well against, say, Barack Obama? I can't.
That having been said, the fact that he's still performing pretty poorly against Clinton is simply a testament of how little traction he actually has. Clinton *has* established a decades-long relationship with African-Americans, and warmed up early enough that LBGTs came over to her side. She's expressed concern--and listened--to enough people to become popular with every group except the young white guys.
Sanders...well, not so much.
spooky3
(34,452 posts)And women paying attention know that she has been extremely consistent in advocating for the right changes. Sanders OTOH explicitly prioritizes income inequality and general economic issues, when directly asked, and implies that rising tides lift all boats, which we know from evidence is not universally true. For example, economic expansion certainly did not help women and African Americans nearly as much as it did white males in the 50s. And economic improvement does not address many issues that affect women.
Most candidates who are genuinely committed to multiple goals are able to multitask rather than to trade off - or ignore - such fundamental priorities. Why would it surprise anyone that most women would clearly prefer HRC and BS to Trump et al., but that between HRC and BS, there are good reasons for women to support HRC? So add that group to the list of those whose members will tend to favor HRC over BS. Note for the statistically challenged: statistical relationships between group tendencies and an outcome do NOT imply that all members of the group will favor that outcome.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)We believe that everyone should be given the opportunity and the support needed to realize his or her potential. Everyone, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or social status, should have an equal opportunity in this world
We are for all......
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Go home Jane, your drunk.
Cha
(297,237 posts)Donna NoShock ??@NoShock
Boom Shakalaka!!! #MDforHRC
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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Jane needs to wake up and smell the coffee!
Cha
(297,237 posts)I hope she doesn't think America is going to forget what her big mouth said during BS' road back to Vermont.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)1- "The South"
2- Overemphasis on Guam
Cha
(297,237 posts)I would have added "Deep South" Voters, Dismissal of South Carolina and Guam, not Caucus states, Independents need to hijack our Democratic Primary, Voters don't know him yet, low information voters... their Whine list is endless..
Cha
(297,237 posts)had way more campaign offices.
Whine # 425 approx
IamMab
(1,359 posts)The irony is hilarious.
Cha
(297,237 posts)hypocrites for the most part.. we know this is what we have to deal with now to win.. but somehow Hillary's team handles their campaign $$$ much better than the crazy spenders over there @ camp burnie.
The irony with sanders is head spinning.. beware of whiplash!
IamMab
(1,359 posts)believing that his support was greater than it actually is by using those rallies for photo ops. But as we learned, his rallies didn't translate into votes, which exposes the "mega-rally" as a failed campaign tactic. But what's Bernie's response? MOAR RALLIES!!111
I still can't believe this man thought he could be the leader of the United States of America. More than ever, I now believe that Tad Devine hoodwinked Sanders into running as a grift on progressive voters. Devine's still getting paid, even as Sanders' reputation is in tatters. I almost feel sorry, but then I remember that Sanders a) should have known better and b) he's the candidate, so he could have dictated a change in strategy whenever he wanted, but didn't. He chose not to manage his campaign better, which is ultimately his fault.
Cha
(297,237 posts)and they don't even translate into votes.. go figure.
sanders is running for POTUS.. he's suppose to be in charge.. would we have tad devine and jeff weaver calling the shots in a Bernie presidency?
An excellent way to tell what kind of President these two would make is to get a load of their campaigns for Office. BS' is a disaster.. Hillary's is like a boss.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)drive at the rallies, and it seems there wasn't, they were a wasted opportunity except for photo ops and talking points of "enthusiasm gaps" v the Clinton campaign.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Cha
(297,237 posts)I love this, gp!
brush
(53,778 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)She just is a deer in the headlights. She is used to Vermont and has never seen how close national politics is. She however can go home and drown her sorrows with Vermont beer which happens to be excellent.
mcar
(42,331 posts)IamMab
(1,359 posts)and it's showing.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)as long as they bash Hillary.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)LOVE Hillary?!
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Building a "good relationship that goes back decades" means Hillary DID earn it.
Is this the best the Sander's campaign can do?
For that matter, why are they still campaigning?
spooky3
(34,452 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Why are they still campaigning? good question when he already lost,sometimes I wonder if he is
just out there to make it bad for her.....could it be fact he's jealous because she accomplish so much in life and he didn't....
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)I really want to know what you are feeling!! Let it all out! You know you want to!
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Please keep talking, Jane! I hope she spout this stupidity every single day from now until June 7th.
You can't buy better anti-Sanders rhetoric. Thanks, Jane!
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)livetohike
(22,143 posts)Sandersrella has to sit at home and toil over their taxes.
RandySF
(58,832 posts)Notice how the campaign sends out conciliatory messages on primary night, only be followed by combative language the next day. I think she eggs him on once they're alone.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)all american girl
(1,788 posts)You want to know who is the anointed one...
The one who woke up one day and decided to run for president with no planning or preparing.
The one who isn't part of the party, but thinks he deserves everything from the party.
The one who thinks that he doesn't have to build decades long relationships with different groups of people, they should just vote for him.
The one who thinks it A-OK to insult the party, the people in the party and the voters of the party that he just joined, and thinks everyone should side with him, because he knows better.
The one who has no understanding of the party rules towards elections, that have been around forever, and thinks they should be changed for him.
The one who is behind in delegates and the popular vote, but thinks he can walk into the convention and steal the election from the woman who worked her ass off.
Jane, dear, that person, thinks he is the anointed one...not Hillary.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)failures, it is past time for the big boy to step up, put his big boy pants on and say he misjudged his ability to sell himself as the stronger candidate.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)Bernie has been quite dismissive of our current President. He barely mentions him and when he does, it's mostly to slam his record. And let's not forget when Bernie openly called for a primary challenge to him during the last Presidential election. Bernie dug himself a HUGE hole by disparaging Obama, a hole he could never get out of.
Cha
(297,237 posts)in dissing and dismissing President Obama.
BS just isn't trustworthy.
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Sparkly
(24,149 posts)Does she think this is going to help?
How stupid do they think people are -- especially minorities?!
Maybe the air is different in Vermont.
Cha
(297,237 posts)that burnie sends his wife out to bern bridges.
still_one
(92,190 posts)that this election was so religiously inspired