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Fla Dem

(23,668 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:22 AM Apr 2016

Jane S. doesn't quite have her facts right.

Last edited Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:47 PM - Edit history (2)

"And most of the primaries going forward are open, which I think is much more democratic," she said. "

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/jane-sanders-bernie-comeback-222568





No Jane, there are only 5 OPEN primaries out of the 14 remaining and 3 of them are caucuses. All the remaining are closed or semi-closed.

Closed = You must be registered as a Democrat.
Semi-Closed = You must be registered as a Democrat/Independent /Undelared, but you must be registered.

In 4 states, the registration deadline has already passed.

Not sure about Guam. Couldn't determined if open or closed.

But in any case, if they haven't had a big "Get Registered" effort in the remaining states we will be hearing how the system once again screwed Bernie in the closed primary states.

"It's also a smarter move for the Democratic Party, because if you close the primary and you only have people that have been in the Democratic Party for years, what you are doing is effectively shutting the door on the millions of people that Bernie has brought into the political process during this election. So we're going to go forward.


Wrong again Jane, people who are really interested in the "Democratic Party" find out when to register and don't just jump on board at the last minute because someone promised them a "Revolution".
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Jane S. doesn't quite have her facts right. (Original Post) Fla Dem Apr 2016 OP
They didn't pay attention to the rules and it's not their fault liberal N proud Apr 2016 #1
Planning, details, and getting things done are obviously not their strong suits. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #2
This does not negate the 3 million more votes Hillary has over Sanders, she is still the most Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #3
I'm having trouble understanding Jane. johnp3907 Apr 2016 #4
I never have understood her calguy Apr 2016 #21
More pretzel logic. eom UtahLib Apr 2016 #5
The B.S.ers are on my fucking nerves! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2016 #6
The arrogance and condescension is incredible. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #7
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #8
"Most" in this case is a BernieMath term Rose Siding Apr 2016 #9
Indiana is an open primary DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #10
Thanks Goddess I fixed it. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #13
anytime! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #16
An error with the graphic about Indiana LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #19
I'm a registered Democrat DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #23
I live in Indiana too. I'm a Democrat but there is no registration for it. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #24
I registered at BMV DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #26
Wonder if it has to do with how many years ago I did it? DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #30
The BS BS just rolls off her tongue. What a fabricator. Like husband, like wife, I guess. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #11
So glad we're keeping those two fabrictors away from the White House. Cha Apr 2016 #32
So 5/17... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #12
Thanks to Tim Robbins and his remarks, BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #14
My information is that Bernie is going to Guam to campaign. George II Apr 2016 #25
That really should lock them BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #35
It just shows how unfair and undemocratic it is that these states won't change their stopbush Apr 2016 #15
Funny that she makes a point about open primaries being "much more Democratic" sarae Apr 2016 #17
Oh boy... I'm starting to think that she isn't trying to lie either. And that's just sad. eom fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #18
Jane Sanders is a piece of work. Not very intellectual. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #20
I have no idea why the Sanders campaign is sending her around to do cable media rounds Tarc Apr 2016 #22
She is not an effective surrogate. I'm not sure why they put her out there redstateblues Apr 2016 #27
I keep telling them ANYONE can register as a Democrat. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #28
Totally agree. Primaries are for the parties to choose THEIR candidate. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #29
"We're down 2-0 in the Series, but we're headin' home for Game 3!" bluestateguy Apr 2016 #31
If I recall... Eisenhower_Repub Apr 2016 #33
Jane is a political nightmare. Doesn't Sanders have one normal surrogate??? Walk away Apr 2016 #34

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. This does not negate the 3 million more votes Hillary has over Sanders, she is still the most
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

qualified candidate running, Sanders is a few issue candidate, this failure is on Sanders.

calguy

(5,309 posts)
21. I never have understood her
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:10 PM
Apr 2016

She seems like a nice enough person and all that. Maybe she just never had to speak on national media before and is quite awkward at it.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. The arrogance and condescension is incredible.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

We are the Democratic Party!

Not this DINO candidate, independents, democratic socialists, Libertarians, Greens, Communists, and whatever other designation people call themselves in rejecting the Democratic label - then having the audacity to declare they are the one and only true Democrats, as they are rejected in the actual voting by the Democrats!

Live and learn. Time for new rules - in a number of places!

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
10. Indiana is an open primary
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:56 PM
Apr 2016

to vote IN the primary you had to register to vote by April 4. That's why my son cannot vote in the primary, but will in the GE, and my daughter CAN vote in the primary, even though she's registered NPA. You select your party ballot at the polling place.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
24. I live in Indiana too. I'm a Democrat but there is no registration for it.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:25 PM
Apr 2016

There is nothing on Indiana's voter registration form that asks for a person's political affiliation. I have done voter registration in Indiana since 1988 and it has never been on the form.

Here is the form used in Indiana - VRG-7

Also, from The Green Papers.

NOTE: In any Primary election in INDIANA, voters state which Party they are affiliated with by asking the poll workers for the ballot of that Party in a given Primary. A voter's party affiliation is determined solely by his or her Primary voting record; the state's voter registration form does NOT provide a place for the voter to state Party affiliation.

Even though the history of a voter's Party affiliation- solely as determined by the individual voter's Primary voting record- is part of the public record, the informaton is NOT available at the polling place. Any voter, however, may challenge another voter's Party affiliation at the polls:

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
26. I registered at BMV
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

there was a spot where I was asked for party affiliation, or none. I checked a party.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
30. Wonder if it has to do with how many years ago I did it?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:31 PM
Apr 2016

Because you're right, when my son registered online, there was no party choice. Not sure about my daughter when she registered at 18 at BMV, I'll have to ask.

Thing is, she and I both get all kinds of Dem mailers, while hubs gets all kinds of R mailers. With the exception of the Sanders mailer he got the other day, which was really kind of funny.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
32. So glad we're keeping those two fabrictors away from the White House.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:19 AM
Apr 2016

they have some ******* nerve thinking our Country deserves them.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
12. So 5/17...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

will be when Bernie Sanders and the Berniacs stop complaining about closed primaries since he will win Oregon then and maybe Kentucky. Sort of like how caucuses were the scourge of their existances after Iowa and Nevada until they became great again when they extended his floundering campaign.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
14. Thanks to Tim Robbins and his remarks,
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

Guam may be a lock for Hillary - or pretty close to one - whether it's open or closed.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
15. It just shows how unfair and undemocratic it is that these states won't change their
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016

primaries to open primaries now that Jane has said they're open. The big banks, Wall Street and the billionaires are disenfranchising millions of Indy voters who want to vote in these primaries, becasue they won't even try to get the state legislatures to change their primaries to being open primaries. Like they couldn't get it done in a few weeks if they wanted to!!111teh

THIS is why people won't vote for Hillary in the GE! At least Trump knows the personal pain of his kids not getting to vote in the NY primary. Plus, his foreign policy speech wasn't all boring, like Hillary's. What does she know about foreign policy anyway? She spent all those years as SoS sitting in her office, plotting how to marginalize Bernie!!11teh

sarae

(3,284 posts)
17. Funny that she makes a point about open primaries being "much more Democratic"
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:59 PM
Apr 2016

but says nothing about caucuses being undemocratic!



Tarc

(10,476 posts)
22. I have no idea why the Sanders campaign is sending her around to do cable media rounds
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016

It has nothing at all to do with her gender, but just as a person, Jane Sanders is exceedingly uninformed about anything to do with politics.

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
28. I keep telling them ANYONE can register as a Democrat.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:11 PM
Apr 2016

Close the primaries. No hedgers. No day traders. If you can't decide whether you are a Democrat or a Republican during election season, then you can wait until the general.

Fla Dem

(23,668 posts)
29. Totally agree. Primaries are for the parties to choose THEIR candidate.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

Why would we want non-Democrats having a voice in choosing our nominee?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
31. "We're down 2-0 in the Series, but we're headin' home for Game 3!"
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:37 PM
Apr 2016

How does that usually end up working out?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
34. Jane is a political nightmare. Doesn't Sanders have one normal surrogate???
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:47 AM
Apr 2016

Jane, Susan, Tim and the rest. It's pathetic.

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