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Related: About this forumRachel Maddow Launches Epic Rant Against Bernie’s ‘Radical’ Convention Strategy (HRC GP)
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Jane Sanders just vowed a fight on the issues at the Democratic convention, and in the past 72 hours, both Bernie and Jane have claimed Hillary is anointed.
This aggressive strategy is extremely counterproductive to the Democratic Party and consequently to the progressive cause.
Rachel Maddow is having none of it, calling the Sanders strategy fantastical and radical.
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Here are some key points Bernie should remember (via NBC News):
1. The Democratic nomination isnt determined by just pledged delegates; a candidate becomes the presumptive nominee when he or she crosses the 2,383 magic number consisting of both pledged delegates and superdelegates.
2. In 2008, Barack Obama crossed the magic number with considerable help from superdelegates. And with superdelegates representing 20% of all delegates back then (its now 15%), Obama certainly didnt have a majority with just pledged delegates alone in that very tight 08 race.
3. But if you want to reduce the Dem race to *just* pledged delegates, Clintons current delegate lead is THREE TIMES the size of Obamas in 2008 (when it hovered around 100).
4. The last candidate to win with pledged delegates alone was Al Gore.
5. Hillary leads Bernie by more than 3 MILLION votes. She led in 2008 and still dropped out to endorse Obama.
Something has gone wrong in the Sanders camp and some serious soul searching is in order.
Rachel Maddow confirms Bernie Sanders contested convention threat is a mere fantasy
With Hillary Clinton on a certain path to win more than fifty percent of the total delegates ahead of the convention based on the remaining proportional delegates shell pick up alone, shell mathematically clinch the nomination in late May or early June. Bernie Sanders and his campaign are making the claim that it wont count because the superdelegates could theoretically all flip to him at the convention, and therefore hes going to be able to contest the convention. But thats not how anything works, and now even Maddow who is often excited by the idea of political dramatics is writing it off.
more in link: http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/rachel-maddow-confirms-bernies-contested-convention-is-a-mere-fantasy/24659/
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/clinton-turns-sights-to-general-election-678203971670
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Have a say in the DNC platform then negotiate not contest. Contesting is not productive.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)OH WOW! He is going to contest the convention! Important! Get free coverage!
Someone has watched the GOP Primaries too much!
IamMab
(1,359 posts)His supporters act like he's Jesus, but all I see now is a left-wing Ben Carson, trying to increase his profile with dumbass statements untethered from reality.
Her Sister
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Plus Trump has gotten everybody in the gutter along with him. Has normalized Bullsh*t and going low.
pandr32
(11,588 posts)All the baloney about a media blackout makes me want to throw up. He has been coddled and covered by the media throughout his campaign, and now it seems we have a nauseating new reality political TV contest between Sanders and Trump of "how low can you go?" Both seem to be competing for many of the same voters.
Cha
(297,322 posts)I think I'll boomerang that right back @ them.
They think they're the gd "anointed" ones. they think they can subvert the will of the People 'cause they're so gd special. Got A Newsflash for them.. They're NOT.
And, they're going to find out just how not special they are. Just how NOT Anointed they are.
Mrs and Mr BS want themselves to be ANOINTED KING and QUEEN of the USA. NOT GONNA HAPPEN,
Bernie and Jane are the Anointed ones.
The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult
Mahalo, HS, for the Tweet from Propane Jane, too~
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Enough!!!! While Trump is getting all comfy over there! And we got a WINNER already!
IamMab
(1,359 posts)How could Saint Bernard be greeted as anything less than a liberator? The Dem Party was supposed to rejoice that he came down from the mountain to save them!
Voters had different plans, though. Those ungrateful heathens!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Thanks for applying.
and now we're saying: "You've said enough"
IamMab
(1,359 posts)as leader of the party.
Not just "no," but "Hell NO!"
Cha
(297,322 posts)are voting for Hillary because they're too knowledgeable for it to be any other way.
I love the rant--absolutely true!
Cha
(297,322 posts)I'm still pissed and from now on BS is the anointed one.
DemonGoddess said the anointed one was just on tv and was called on his crap..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=123089
pandr
pandr32
(11,588 posts)It does something to my stomach
Ha-ha! Better off avoiding my "triggers"!!!
I can't wait until his mic has been removed from his hand.
Hugs back!
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Light63
(233 posts)I'm starting to think that
1) Bernie cannot standing losing the presidential race to a woman. Quite a few times during the debates, Bernie had displayed the habit of pointing his finger at Hillary and proclaimed, "Excuse me. I'm talking!" - Sexism
2) Jane in turn cannot stand to see her husband lose to Hillary. Jane wants the FLOTUS seat. Jane is seeing herself above Hillary. I like to remind Jane of the analogy that Chris Matthew had used on Sarah Palin during the 2008 presidential race when Sarah thought that she was better than Hillary, "In term of political knowledge and experience, Sarah is an igloo and Hillary is the Empire State Building of New York." - Jealousy
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)"Its anyones guess why Bernie and Jane Sanders are on the offensive against Hillary despite her overwhelming lead among pledged delegates and in the popular vote. "
that may be the answer to this very inscrutable puzzle.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Bye!
Cha
(297,322 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)grrrrrrrrrrr.....
Thanks Cha!
HRC #45
Cha
(297,322 posts)pandr32
(11,588 posts)...and they can't let go. I wonder how they deal with each other? Oh well, I don't really care. I just wish they would find some semblance of propriety and behave as responsible Democrats--Bernie did sign on. Did Jane?
Aloha Cha!
Cha
(297,322 posts)but they want to be "anointed" so nothing is going to stand in their way.. they think.
Aloha pandr~
Cha
(297,322 posts)It's just a fantasy.. It's not "inscrutable" @ all.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)I think I'll be reporting the numerous robocalls I got from the Sanders campaign over the weekend. You know how I know that? There was finally a real person on the other end, after TEN FUCKING CALLS in 4 hours.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Clinton has three times the lead over Sanders compared to the lead Obama had on her in 2008
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)As if brazing herself for the Hate coming her way! Hurts her feelings but also makes her stronger! Well Done!
SunSeeker
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gwheezie
(3,580 posts)That should do it.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Hillary wasn't eager to drop out of the race in 2008, but when it became clear she wasn't going to swing the votes her way, she gave the biggest endorsement possible to Obama. Bernie is in an even worse position, and he's revealing who he really is; a guy who cares mostly about himself. Neither the party, nor his 'revolution', are served by looking petty and getting smacked down and humiliated at the convention. There's not much time left for him to stop talking like this and do the right thing.
It's in his own interest. If I was a Dem of any power, I would be fuming at him, and would demand he be moved to the lowest rung of seniority for everything.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)He used our party, he can at least be gracious in defeat.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Where was he all these years! Perched somewhere! Did he do the hard work? What did he even accomplish up there in Vermont!
Not accepting the lecture! NOPE!
Politicub
(12,165 posts)He's drunk in his power bubble, surrounded by his adoring followers.
Of course he wants to live large as long as possible. The Democratic Party be damned. Bernie only cares about Bernie.