Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumRachel Maddow confirms Bernie Sanders “contested convention” threat is a mere fantasy
I am posting this even as she lost last evening because not much changed IMHO.
Vivian Griffin ?@AdamsFlaFan 4s5 seconds ago
Rachel Maddow confirms Bernie Sanders contested convention threat is a mere fantasy http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/rachel-maddow-confirms-bernies-contested-convention-is-a-mere-fantasy/24659/
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...............With Hillary Clinton on a certain path to win more than fifty percent of the total delegates ahead of the convention based on the remaining proportional delegates shell pick up alone, shell mathematically clinch the nomination in late May or early June. Bernie Sanders and his campaign are making the claim that it wont count because the superdelegates could theoretically all flip to him at the convention, and therefore hes going to be able to contest the convention. But thats not how anything works, and now even Maddow who is often excited by the idea of political dramatics is writing it off.
Maddow, in an overly skeptical tone, pointed out that Bernie Sanders cant realistically come close to catching up in the delegate count. She referred to his threat of a contested convention as fantastical and then she went on to explain that the word doesnt have the same definition as fantastic. So whats the definition of fantastical? Its described in the dictionary as being akin to words like imaginary, groundless, impractical and outlandish.
After writing off the Bernie Sanders contested convention threat as fantasy, Rachel Maddow appeared to be aware that she was telling a portion of her audience something they strongly didnt want to hear. She quipped Please send your hatemail to
before rattling off her own email address. This represents Maddow following up her earlier conclusion last week that Hillary Clinton became the democratic nominee on April 26th after she dominated that days voting. /..................
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)My husband was right all along. He couldn't stand him from the beginning, while I thought he was cute. Boy, was I fooled. I feel sickened to have been such a bad judge of character for he has none.
riversedge
(70,252 posts)IamMab
(1,359 posts)When the primary began, I believed that Sanders was the oldest but the least emotionally mature of the candidates. I saw him as a list of positions, with no real history of achievements. The essays he wrote in his thirties indicated a state of delayed adolescence. I did not write or believe or act as he did in my thirties. I was concerned about his tendency to lose his temper, not only with his staff, but also with anyone who disagreed with him. I was troubled by his lack of genuine long-term friendships with Democrats in the House and Senate. I was disturbed by his nurturing a life-long resentment of wealthy people. I also didn't see any indication in his upbringing or education of any solid religious or philosophical ethical grounding. Empathy and other-centered behavior seemed hard for him. I was worried that he had no real background in finance, economics, or law. That worry was confirmed in his interview with the New York Daily News and his apparent obliviousness to tax returns and campaign funding irregularities.
I believe that his present state of mind is delusional and "fantastical." He is behaving like an adolescent who wants his way, whatever the cost to others. He talks about who can or cannot beat Trump, but he has no clue how to run a country and how government operates (amazing naivete after so many years in the establishment). He has no talent for negotiation, for bonding with Democrats, for choosing the best means to bring about ends favorable to the common good. He cannot dialogue for more than a few minutes with people he disagrees with, and he would thoroughly botch international relations. He doesn't understand how banks work, taxes work, loans work, financial statements work. I find him incurious. I have researched many of his "favored agenda" more than he has. What does he really know about climate change, for example? Does he read? What does he read? Does he study? Does he learn from others? Where do his ideas come from, other than socialist texts in his college days? His health care proposal is a mishmash of unrealistic expectations of economic growth, broad and unattainable tax reforms, and a severely limited understanding of how the health care delivery system operates. His free college proposal is the same sort of product of oversimplified and unrealistic reasoning. Truthfully, everything looks simple to the uninformed. To those who really study existing problems, solutions are far more complicated and incremental. Except in fairy tales, no problems can be solved immediately and all at once.
Hillary understands stuff so much better than Bernie does. When she doesn't know something, she asks someone who does or looks for a source. When Bernie doesn't understand something, he makes up stuff. He is a list of positions, a lot of headlines with no genuine articles, a cover without a book, resentment without compassion, words without action, adversaries but few friends. His campaign is about a "future to believe in." But I don't see a dream we can all get excited about or an ideal we can strive for. I see "economic equality," but I don't see a dream with people in it. I don't see people working together for the common good, caring about one another, respecting one another, being kind to one another, loving one another, embracing common humanity. It is a cold vision of realigned money, and it is fueled by anger and resentment.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Thanks.
Everything you touched on has been on my mind and then there's Jane - eeeeekkkk.!
Koinos
(2,792 posts)This article about Jane Sanders and Goddard College was the crowning blow to her credibility:
http://quadrant4.org/docs/janedemo.html
It is long, but spells out her authoritarian style of management.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)Who else have we heard described that way?
otohara
(24,135 posts)She has some harsh words for our public education system and honestly who doesn't Jane, but I wouldn't trust her to overhaul a daycare center. There is no mention of her time at Goddard in this piece except as a student.
Jane Sanders Has Some Harsh Words for Our Public Education System
In this interview, Bernie Sanderss wife explains how schools would be different under President Sanders.
Considering the critical issues facing Americas public schools, the amount of time the presidential candidates have given over to substantive discussions of our K-12 education system has been pitiful. From high-stakes standardized testing, charter schools, school funding, and zero tolerance disciplinary policies, educators, parents, students, and the general public dont know where the presidential candidates stand. These are issues that have a direct impact on fifty million students and their families in almost one hundred thousand schools across the country.
Last week, at Senator Bernie Sanderss presidential campaigns rally in Long Island City, I interviewed Dr. Jane Sanders, social worker, educator, and adviser and Bernies longtime spouse. She has served as the provost and interim president of Goddard College and president of Burlington College, both in Vermont (full disclosure: I have volunteered for the Sanders campaign, and I am currently a student at Goddard College). We discussed Sanderss work as an educator and a wide range of topics in education, from progressive education thinkers like John Dewey and Maria Montessori to hands-on, apprenticeship models of learning. This interview has been lightly edited for clarity.
http://www.thenation.com/article/jane-sanders-has-some-harsh-words-for-our-public-education-system/
Koinos
(2,792 posts)I happen to know quite a bit about the philosophy of John Dewey, especially with regard to authoritarian versus democratic methods in education, the workplace, society, and government.
I think Jane should pursue further study with regard to the ideal and principles of democracy, which her autocratic behavior at Goddard and Burlington clearly opposed.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)That is the most articulate and detailed reason I've ever read or heard as to why someone is not supporting Sanders. Thanks for taking the time to think, write, and share it.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)And you have to realize how much I appreciate everything you write. You are irreplaceable.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Thank you explaining why Bernie has fallen so short with so many people. Eloquently said!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Fact there are 165 super delegates remaining who has not endorsed and except for Sanders I think they endorse Hillary, she will be in on the first vote in the convention.