But it doesn't excuse Bernie. They are two peas in a pod.

She is a piece of work.

It is long, but spells out her authoritarian style of management.

http://quadrant4.org/docs/janedemo.html

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Not a fan of JS!

We are both academics so I can relate to having a leader with these traits. I want to share this with my husband and sister.

Yechhhhhh

At. All. I can't see any likable qualities about her.

The one labeled Hillary has all the negative ones in it, and the one labeled Jane has all the positive ones. Easy to compare, yet it seems the grab bags would be better suited switched.

the venomous, disingenuous side when she has her fangs out for Hillary and President Obama that's disturbing.

She behaved exactly the same during her time as President of Burlington College. She was forced out and fired. The same authoritarian, micro-managing, and hostile management style. She seems like a terrible person.

I believe that Burlington college is seeing about sueing and there is something about possible loan fraud. The article is in the Boston Beacon. Do some research on it.

I JUST RECHECKED THE SOURCE IT COMES FROM BURLINGTON FREE PRESS

Just read! Argh! Shivers of disgust!

Full authoritarian with no democracy in sight. The sense of entitlement runs strong with both Bernie and Jane.

You have it wrong. Hill is the entitled one. BSers tell us that all the time. Dayum it they do!

From the link:

especially considering the authoritarianism in many forms of socialism.

Side note: I applied and was accepted to Goddard wayyyyy back in the day, but went elsewhere.

unsubstantiated disgruntlement from the distant past is not that compelling

It was written May 1st, 1997, by a board member of Goddard College, who was concerned about the direction the college was taking under the "acting president," Jane Sanders. This is an official non-recommendation, and not "unsubstantiated disgruntlement"; and it preceded Jane's tenure as president of Burlington. The board member viewed Sanders' conduct as opposed to the democratic principles of the founders of Goddard College, principles greatly derived from the philosophy of John Dewey. The fact that Jane Sanders sought a permanent position as president of the college apparently concerned enough of the board members that her bid did not succeed. It is also significant that Noam Chomsky, among other academic notables, appealed the decision to fire popular staff members -- a decision that was influenced by Jane Sanders herself.

Your apparent slant in a protected group (Hillary Group) makes your comment less than compelling. Are you sure you belong here?

the primary is not a zero sum game. especially now that it is for all practical purposes decided, the more smoothly Hillary can transition to the general without Sanders scrapping the better.

She has appeared on the air more often than Weaver or Devine in that last several weeks, and she has become the center of controversy with regard to releasing or not releasing tax forms. Her involvement with the Sierra Blanca controversy is relevant given Bernie's legislative action in that regard. Jane is very likely one who has had a whole lot to do with the way Bernie's campaign has been conducted, including its handling of financial affairs. Jane's handling of loans at Burlington and her failure to release tax forms she completed are related to Bernie's lack of oversight in the finances of his own campaign. Moreover, I am especially disturbed by authoritarian and anti-democratic personality traits I see in both Jane and Bernie. That is all "fair game" for scrutiny, especially when that campaign challenges the integrity of everyone who opposes them.

But if Jane wants to avoid scrutiny, she should avoid making outrageous statements publicly. The same is true for Weaver and Devine. They are only making things worse for themselves and Bernie.

Take care. I am done.

I don't much care for either of them.

“…Note that Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz, if chosen, would arguably (8) fit into the category of ideologically pure but electorally dubious nominees.”

The Republican Party May Be Failing
JAN 25, 2016 AT 4:39 PM

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-party-may-be-failing/

What he already wants to do.

I'll vote for him if I have to because I am a solid big d democrat. Which is apparently no longer a necessity on this board nor is it particularly valued.

away. I wanted to point out how their behavior is impacting those of us who have always, in my case 41 years, voted for Democrats.

I was talking about people in gdp boldly declaring that they will not vote for the democratic nominee

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Thank all the gods and other mythological creatures. Aside from the fact that I like Hillary and fully support her, I'm VERY glad Sanders won't be the nominee.

Exactly.

And this is a different college than the one she bankrupted, no?

As Hunter Thompson said, “When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional.”

about her targets. poor jane.. she's stuck with berny and vice versa.

So is Jane Sanders a Trump surrogate now? Just what we need. Thanks for nothing, Jane!!

I heard a caller call in to the Stephanie Miller show and he said the same thing. Steph laughed at him and disagreed.

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herself in many important projects and then the prospect of a possible First Lady in Jane Sanders makes me shake my head. I see nothing sweet about her. Not sure whose tone is more annoying hers, or his.l

I'm not going to go there on her appearance, but I will say that I don't think Jane Sanders has much inner beauty.

Selflessness. I know my comments were catty. Couldn't help it 😞.

I've been parsing over the difference between caftans and mumus for a couple of weeks now!

Relieved to know I'm not the only one.

Attacking Jane Sanders on the way she looks is as misogynistic as doing the same to Hillary Clinton. We're better than that.

Criticizing her on what she says and what she does is fair game, but the way she looks should be off limits. And dragging in hints of mental illness (the trope of the mentally ill homeless woman) is especially egregious. Please don't sink to those depths. Please edit your post.

"Jane Sanders looks like the biggest con artist I've ever seen"?

There's a difference between calling someone a bag lady and a con artist. What verb you use is immaterial in this example.

It is very important to push back against unacceptable language even when that language is used against our political opponents. Using her looks as the reason to say she will be a bad First Lady isn't just misogynistic towards Jane Sanders, it is problematic for *all* women, regardless of whether they are on our side or not, because it says that your looks are whatqualifies you for that position. We are better than that.

Presidency right now and having a First Dude in the White House. (I wonder what title they will ultimately use).

They are not typical Democrats who would do whatever it takes for the good of the party. I hope that he becomes such a pain in the behind that he uses up all his political capital and isn't given any influence in a party that he clearly does not respect.

ever since his campaign started going negative. Weaver and Devine are also part of the reason, but, like you, I think that Jane is the prime force behind the strategy and tone of the campaign, especially in the last few months.

I really have come to dislike her.

I agree with everything you wrote here.

from the campaign is a big motivator to both of them. Bernie can't have that money but Jane can be paid, I would think, just as others employed by the campaign. What a great reason to extend the campaign as long as possible. I would love to know the amount she is getting if she is being paid.

the unpleasant personality defects of one another.

I've seen nothing to suggest that she is or ever has been a Democrat.
It's troubling that Jane said that if Bernie doesn't win the nomination they'll start their own "organization". Does that mean a third party?

"The Demise of a Pioneer in Progressive Colleges: How Corporate Structure Undermined Democratic Governance at Goddard"

http://quadrant4.org/goddard1a.html